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penguins · 07-25-2005, 02:00 AM

Is this a magnesium deficiency?

They're about a week into flower, and this just started to show up. I'm using 1 tsp FoxFarm GrowBig, 1tsp TigerBloom, 1/4 Tsp epsom salts per gal.

I just watered 2days ago (about when it startedd to show up), so should i water again with some epsom right away or wait awhile?

mrwags · 07-25-2005, 08:22 AM

hey penguin, It's summer time did your girls get very hot during the day by chance? When you mix in your epsom to your mix are you disolving it in hot water first? And of course the usual water temps? ph?

Mr.Wags

07-25-2005, 12:51 PM

Wags
Hey brother real quick question. You said to put epsom salts in hot water 1st..
1. why can ya explain a lil please.. Thanx just curious as i didnt know bout hot water & epsom salts.. peace..

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penguins · 07-26-2005, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mrwags

It's summer time did your girls get very hot during the day by chance?

hehe, I live in texas, it's always hot...
now I have another fan, hopefully that should help.

as for the epsom salts i haven't been dissolving them in hot water first, just a good shake with a lukewarm gallon, but i will try that from now on.

Can I water with cold water to help them deal with the heat or will that shock the roots?

It's getting worse fast though, the lower fan leaves are yellow and droopy now. Is there anything immediate i can do?

mrwags · 07-26-2005, 06:28 AM

Check out the new growth for color. Always water by the weight of the pot weigh one with fresh non watered soil to get a good feel for what your plant shoul weigh when it has no water just the plant the pot and the soil. Hell man I'm a newby to but have spent thousands of hours reading and reading some more and only can share what I have done over the past to deal with sick baby issues. I killed many a plant early on I'll admit that but at first I over watered and mother henned them to DEATH. The weight thing worked for me in the end. These plants we grow are millions of years old,If they have not figured out what to do to live by now they never will but we must give them that chance first. And yes epsom salt must be dissolved in hot water to break down the crystals so that it may mix properly with the water but I suggest using Cal Mag instead. My 2 Cents.

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blackfin · 07-26-2005, 12:24 PM

looks like mag def... the viens are still green while in between is yellow classic mag def... i always put a whole tsp/gal of epson salt everyother water/feeding and i've never dissolved it, just a good shake. never experienced true mag def. i use epson to controll my ph (bring it down)

and don't use cold water it will shock the roots. if you drink gatoraid (or any drink that comes in gallon jugs) save the gallon jugs and store up a surplus of water. that way you will always have a supply of room temp water. leave the top off for a few days or just a day so that the clorine will evaporate off.

clorine and calcium (hard water) can also lockup mag so if you've been watering strait out of the tap this could be the problem

penguins · 07-27-2005, 02:43 AM

ahh, the last watering was out of the tap, usually i go with filtered water, but i was lazy this time

won't make that mistake again!

07-27-2005, 03:38 AM

What kind of filter? a filter containing salts may cause more damage than do good.

Flower Pot · 07-27-2005, 11:30 AM

i have found that my plants seem to suffer from mg def when i dont let the water stand over night.. last crop i added some epsoms during flowering and didnt get any unusuall yellowing...

Growdoc · 07-27-2005, 03:06 PM

Unless you are in a country that has cloera in the water system then i say all soil growers must use fresh water... The plants really need these fresh bacteria! if you dont use fresh water then you must introduce benifical bacteria once a month.

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07-25-2005, 02:00 AM	#1
penguins Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 32	Magnesion def.? Is this a magnesium deficiency? They're about a week into flower, and this just started to show up. I'm using 1 tsp FoxFarm GrowBig, 1tsp TigerBloom, 1/4 Tsp epsom salts per gal. I just watered 2days ago (about when it startedd to show up), so should i water again with some epsom right away or wait awhile?
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07-25-2005, 08:22 AM	#2
mrwags ********* Female Seeds Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,493	hey penguin, It's summer time did your girls get very hot during the day by chance? When you mix in your epsom to your mix are you disolving it in hot water first? And of course the usual water temps? ph? Mr.Wags __________________ Never Argue With The Ignorant Because They Will Simply Pull You Down To Their Level And Beat You With Experience So the idea of spreading the love is the disease and making sure it's done is the cure TY all for allowing me to get my treatment
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07-26-2005, 06:28 AM	#5
mrwags ********* Female Seeds Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,493	Check out the new growth for color. Always water by the weight of the pot weigh one with fresh non watered soil to get a good feel for what your plant shoul weigh when it has no water just the plant the pot and the soil. Hell man I'm a newby to but have spent thousands of hours reading and reading some more and only can share what I have done over the past to deal with sick baby issues. I killed many a plant early on I'll admit that but at first I over watered and mother henned them to DEATH. The weight thing worked for me in the end. These plants we grow are millions of years old,If they have not figured out what to do to live by now they never will but we must give them that chance first. And yes epsom salt must be dissolved in hot water to break down the crystals so that it may mix properly with the water but I suggest using Cal Mag instead. My 2 Cents. Mr.Wags __________________ Never Argue With The Ignorant Because They Will Simply Pull You Down To Their Level And Beat You With Experience So the idea of spreading the love is the disease and making sure it's done is the cure TY all for allowing me to get my treatment
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07-27-2005, 11:30 AM	#9
Flower Pot Jesus freak Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: uk Posts: 114	let it stand.. i have found that my plants seem to suffer from mg def when i dont let the water stand over night.. last crop i added some epsoms during flowering and didnt get any unusuall yellowing...
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07-27-2005, 03:06 PM	#10
Growdoc Cannabis Helper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The World Posts: 2,367	Unless you are in a country that has cloera in the water system then i say all soil growers must use fresh water... The plants really need these fresh bacteria! if you dont use fresh water then you must introduce benifical bacteria once a month. Growdoc __________________ Grow and be free... MEDICAL MARIJUANA BubbleDust released GROWDOC SEEDS FORUM
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07-25-2005, 12:51 PM	#3
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Wags Hey brother real quick question. You said to put epsom salts in hot water 1st.. 1. why can ya explain a lil please.. Thanx just curious as i didnt know bout hot water & epsom salts.. peace.. Sack's First Outdoor Grow LQQK see... 31 days 12/12 Sack's Bubbledust Outdoor Grow Sack's Cappuccino OD Grow Sack's Limon OD Grow sack :joint
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07-26-2005, 12:24 PM	#6
blackfin Cannabis Avenger Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: moon Posts: 342	looks like mag def... the viens are still green while in between is yellow classic mag def... i always put a whole tsp/gal of epson salt everyother water/feeding and i've never dissolved it, just a good shake. never experienced true mag def. i use epson to controll my ph (bring it down) and don't use cold water it will shock the roots. if you drink gatoraid (or any drink that comes in gallon jugs) save the gallon jugs and store up a surplus of water. that way you will always have a supply of room temp water. leave the top off for a few days or just a day so that the clorine will evaporate off. clorine and calcium (hard water) can also lockup mag so if you've been watering strait out of the tap this could be the problem
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07-27-2005, 02:43 AM	#7
penguins Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 32	ahh, the last watering was out of the tap, usually i go with filtered water, but i was lazy this time won't make that mistake again!
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07-27-2005, 03:38 AM	#8
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	What kind of filter? a filter containing salts may cause more damage than do good.
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