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Old 12-07-2010, 10:38 PM #51
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I had a Hebrew girlfriend once who bought anointing oil or what she called "Shabbat oil". I do remember that her beliefs were that it was only used in special ceremonies. I googled it and found this:
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The Holy Anointing Oil described in Exodus 30:22-25 was created from 500 shekels (about 6kg) of myrrh, half as much (about 3kg) of fragrant cinnamon, 250 shekels (about 3kg) of fragrant cane (kanehbosm, variously translated as cannabis or calamus), 500 shekels (about 6kg) of cassia, and a hin (about 4L) of olive oil.

Since the amount of spices would clearly overwhelm the olive oil, it is thought that these measures were of the original spices that were then distilled down, by "the art of the apothecary", to essential oils. Because there is no record of how the Jews rendered oil from their spices, it is unclear as to how much oil would have made up the final mixture.

The holiness of the oil was protected by the ceremonial law, which prohibited its use in anything but the rites of the temple, on threat of banishment from among the Jewish people.

The holy anointing oil mentioned in various sacred Hebrew texts contained, among other ingredients, an herb known as kaneh-bosm (fragrant cane). Historically interpreted to mean calamus, there is some evidence that the correct interpretation of 'fragrant cane' may in fact be cannabis.
This goes along with what I remember from discussions with her.

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Are you looking for the original recipe or oil made by the original formula?
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BUmp!

I am in the process of collecting various oils to fashion up some of this anointing oil and was hoping to get some advice from those with some experience with this sort of thing(ahem GW), as I have not. My main question is about the efficacy of this formula with olive oil in place of coconut. Gray Wolf can you by chance explain why the short chain nature of coconut oil is good for our use vs. olive oil? I would prefer the consistency of olive oil which should stay more liquid at cooler temps while the coconut solidifies at a much warmer temp. So as a primarily sublingual oil greater range of liquidity seems appealing to me. thoughts? exp?
I do also intend to make a topical only version which may include emu oil, and would prefer a more solid, salve-type consistency so am thinking coconut oil, possibly even a dab of beeswax to help prevent melting since I have 5lbs or so laying around.
For incredible coconut oil check out this source, haven't tried it yet since the 5gal pail is backordered atm...
https://www.tropicaltraditions.com/vi...oconut_oil.htm

I also am toying with the idea of adding Frankincense to the oil. OK im just about sold on the idea. here's why
"Frankincense has been noted as a potent immunostimulant and anti-cancer agent in a variety of scientific studies. The essential oil has been shown to stimulate lymphocyte transformation (a measure of its immune system stimulating action, as immune cells are created which fight off specific invaders in the body). It has also been shown to be tumoricidal, which means it destroys the tumors formed by cancerous cells. ...Frankincense oil is linked to the psyche, which in Greek also means "breathing". It deepens and revitalizes the breath and adds to these effects its excellent immunostimulant properties. In skin care, frankincense oil reveals its balsamic nature through its miraculous wound healing properties. Astringent and anti-inflammatory, it is traditionally used to treat scar tissue and skin ulcers, and nourishes dry and prematurely aging skin. Its anti-depressant, euphoric qualities are used in psycho-aromatherapy to treat anxiety & nervous tension."
from this page, where I am ordering CO2 extracted oils of Cinnamon, Frankincense and Myrrh. not cheap but considering the quality I think fair prices.
https://www.anandaapothecary.com/arom...ntial-oil.html
Any thoughts on adding Frankincense?
Anyone care to chime in with experience making high potency infused olive oil?

Thanks so much for posting this wonderful thread!
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Olive oil will work fine. I have made it with Almond oil during winter months.

I keep my pain topicals in a wide mouth 1/2 pint canning jar, so that its consistency isn't an issue year around, and include Emu oil in it as well.

When I make a massage oil, I include olive oil with the coconut oil, because it doesn't soak in and keeps the skin lubricious:

We make massage bars that also include Jojoba oil and we add bees wax to stiffen it. I prefer my topicals without bees wax, because of the residue it leaves on the skin.


I've never tried Frakincense. Hope you will share how it works out!
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You, Sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. So helpful!
Couple more questions though.
Everywhere I look at cinnamon oil it warns that it should be diluted to at most 1% before any topical application. It seems your recipe cinnamon is 1.4g out of ~14.5g so close to 10%? If using your topical recipe with 10g canna, 8g coconut oil then your still at least 5%...I guess if none of your patients have problems then it's maybe just fine to be a little stronger, but maybe theres a number issue? 1.4g does seem like a lot of cinnamon...that'd be over 1 ml?
I was sorta planning to weigh out the hash oil and olive, then just add a drop or two of each to taste: Cinnamon, Myrrh, Frankincense. I'll be sure to update how it goes with the Frankincense, though It'll be some time before I get it to some patients and get substantial feedback. I'll at least make the oil without Frankincense, then add it after sampling to compare. Hopefully I can find some cancer/tumor patients and see how the Frankincense version works for them.
Also regarding olive oil you mention that you use it for massage oil because it doesn't soak in. Would that mean I should stick to oral dosing with olive oil based HAO? or would it still be effective topically? Guess I'll have to try it and find out.
Last question: Since my absolute is stickier than tar in december, would you reccomend using just enough ethanol to dissolve 10g, then combining that with the other oils and driving the ethanol back off? Seems like if I heat it slowly, like in a double boiler or the like then the warm cannabis oil might mix OK without adding ethanol. It is well decarboxylated so I'm hoping to minimize heat. Seems like if I had ethanol then I've gotta heat it more to purge it again...
Thanks again Gray Wolf!
anyone else got any experience to share with us?
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You, Sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. So helpful!
Couple more questions though.
Everywhere I look at cinnamon oil it warns that it should be diluted to at most 1% before any topical application. It seems your recipe cinnamon is 1.4g out of ~14.5g so close to 10%? If using your topical recipe with 10g canna, 8g coconut oil then your still at least 5%...I guess if none of your patients have problems then it's maybe just fine to be a little stronger, but maybe theres a number issue? 1.4g does seem like a lot of cinnamon...that'd be over 1 ml?
I was sorta planning to weigh out the hash oil and olive, then just add a drop or two of each to taste: Cinnamon, Myrrh, Frankincense. I'll be sure to update how it goes with the Frankincense, though It'll be some time before I get it to some patients and get substantial feedback. I'll at least make the oil without Frankincense, then add it after sampling to compare. Hopefully I can find some cancer/tumor patients and see how the Frankincense version works for them.
Also regarding olive oil you mention that you use it for massage oil because it doesn't soak in. Would that mean I should stick to oral dosing with olive oil based HAO? or would it still be effective topically? Guess I'll have to try it and find out.
Last question: Since my absolute is stickier than tar in december, would you reccomend using just enough ethanol to dissolve 10g, then combining that with the other oils and driving the ethanol back off? Seems like if I heat it slowly, like in a double boiler or the like then the warm cannabis oil might mix OK without adding ethanol. It is well decarboxylated so I'm hoping to minimize heat. Seems like if I had ethanol then I've gotta heat it more to purge it again...
Thanks again Gray Wolf!
anyone else got any experience to share with us?
Good point on the 1% TLV topically! The concentration of our essential cinnamon oil extract is not 100%.

My skin is actually pretty sensitive and we are in point of fact close to the edge for ultra sensitive parts of my own body. This concentration doesn't burn my skin at any location, but repeated applications makes it more sensitive.

If you are applying the oil to those sorts of areas, you would be well advised to start with a lower concentration and find the level that best suits you.

The original Holy Anointing Oil olive oil formula works well and uses only olive oil. We use coconut oil because it seems to work better and doesn't leave residue.

Either work both orally, or topically, because the cannabinoids themselves are trans-dermal.

I mix oils directly with cannabis oil above about 180F. No alcohol required.
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