[3dDream]

From a DJ Short article:

Your friend the freezer

A benevolent tool in our trade is the refrigerator and freezer. The fridge is extremely useful in extending the longevity of seed and pollen. The trick to successful freezing is to freeze deep (-10 to -40°F/-20 to -35°C) and then keep the seed undisturbed. Hard frozen objects are very fragile. The slightest shock may shatter crucial, delicate cell structures within the seed. Double wrap the seed in paper; little manilla envelopes work great.

I like to do small amounts, in one-time-use packets, to keep waste to a minimum. Then place the wrap into a plastic freezer bag, then place the freezer bag into a plastic tub or tupperware container. Now the seed is ready for the deep-freeze. In the fridge, storing seed in airtight, brown glass jars with a little rice or other non-toxic desiccant seems to work best.

I have had pollen last for years in a deep freeze. It must be frozen immediately after fresh collection from the plant, in as low a humidity as possible (preferably 0%). I like to shake the productive male flowers over a flat and clean piece of glass. The pollen pile is sifted to rid the unwanted plant material from the pure powder.

It is also useful to cut pollen with flour to stretch the amount. A pollen-to-flour ratio of 1:10 or even 1:100 works best. The cut pollen may then be separated into small, one-time-use amounts, stored in a flap of paper and frozen the same way as the seed. The frozen pollen must be applied to the live female flower immediately after thawing to increase viability.

[fastnick1oo]

From my experience:
I took seeds out of buds when they started to easly fall off - after poking them with toothpick - they weren't whole-brown by that time. I left them for week, to dry. After that I put them in fridge (with fair ammount of rice, as dehydrant) for next two weeks and tested germ ratio. 8 out of 10 sprouted and were very vigorous.

...so I don't think it's always "wait till bud is ready and collect seeds after it's dry". ; P

[nobull56]

Originally Posted by nobull56

Time improves techniques, but some of us old farts are too hardheaded to change what worked in the ‘Olden days’.

With this disclaimer

All knowledge is great & Unknown started this for all to share & enjoy our diversity.

I hope everyone took my rant as ‘Only one way’; I would never (I hope) hint that that what I do is best!

For the ‘Longest’ after freezing to 0°, move to a ‘Dewar Flask’ of liquid nitrogen. Only thaw once (slowly) & never let the Dewar run low on liquid. We used to keep cattle & hog seamen in a livestock Dewar; some seeds experimented with them self’s & hopefully someone some where is keeping that going. Too much work for me!
We keep a small supply of ‘Survival’ food & seeds; they come in partially vacuumed cans & pouches; they claim 10 to 25 years shelf life & we have eaten 12 year old sprouts as we rotate our supply. Recommended storage “ cool dry place”, tuff in Lake Co summer!


Like growing use what works, but most of all have fun!!

[UnknownProphet]

Wow thank you all for the great information. I will start fully documenting my current process and hopefully can germ test in a little while. And even if I don't have the room to finish them, maybe a lucky IC'er will get them gifted...looking at you nobull.

Nobull was completely correct in saying I started this thread to share information. I really love growing, and the people who share my passion I find to be some of the kindest hearted people I've met. That being said I'm not naive and won't just take anyone's advice.

I honestly believe there's no right way to grow, just what works the best for you. I have had countless conversations with growers, where the other party is completely close minded and not willing to accept any constructive criticism or suggestions. Well this is the opposite of that, this thread, if not the whole site is about giving back to me. I did my homework and I like sharing with the class.

Anyways kind of going off on a tangent there. Anyways I'll try to take some pics and upload them sooner than later until then anyone willing to chime in is greatly appreciated.

Until then all....


ʇǝɥdoɹPuʍouʞuU

[mean mr.mustard]

NYCD x Lemon Kush

(seeded by Violator Kush)

[UnknownProphet]

I will be fully documenting my crosses which include....
-NYCD#1 X NYCD(m)
-NYCD#2 X NYCD(m)
-NYCD#3 X NYCD(m)
-NYCD#4 X NYCD(m)
-NYCD#5 X NYCD(m)
-Blue Dream X NYCD(m)
-Red Dragon X NYCD(m)
-Gob 9 X NYCD

As you can tell I kinda like NYCD.

Great minds think alike...heres a before the chop picture of Red Dragon X NYCD



(award winning)GOB9 X NYCD




ʇǝɥdoɹPuʍouʞuU

[nobull56]

Great Photos!!

[Mountain_Monkey]

Beautiful shot there mate. Those crosses sound awesome aswell.

[Jones]

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great thread guys ,

i did a seedrun and finished around 3 weeks ago dryed the bud for a good 10day and placed bud in a bag and gave it a good shake . then placed the seeds in a enverlope . just waiting on the seeds too dry .
from 4 autos i got over 5000 seeds they were all seeded to the max .

heres a pic of some of the seeds .