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globel · 02-28-2010, 07:01 AM

the valley had alot of shops shut down recently. Alot of that og is going to be coming down south for cheap. =)

I work at a shop south of the valley and I still drive my way up there to window shop. I love the clinics with free samples... And the vapor lounges ..the one with the girls with the exposed boobies...

Hey Bi0hazard whats your thoughts on the origin of

Skywalker? Its the new craze this month.

....Oh and my take on getting og to smell right... NOTHING... real og will smell like it no matter what.. We take it out from a warehouse that its grown in and sell it 14 days later.

KUSHEATER1 · 03-02-2010, 07:31 AM

very true all my og has stunk up the place and I have tried them all it's in the strain

InfectedMush · 03-02-2010, 09:39 AM

Gotta love that thick pine flavor. I got a HP of OG kush straight from a outdoor grower somewhere in cali. Some of the best smoke I have ever had and it had that piney outdoor lingering taste and just a dank skunky pine smell to it that I had to double bag. Apparently one of the plants hermied out so they got pollinated, it was still the best smoke i've had and I got about 300 really nice looking chunky seeds. I cant imagine what it would have been like if it was straight sensimillia.

As for bringing out flavor, it seems that a good organic soil mix and a good compost tea is the best way to bring out those fragrances. A hit blackberry kush grown this way makes me drool on the floor.

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it was pretty much over for the ones who wanted to keep it on lock.

Im still new here, but as a medical grower I have to ask why you would want to keep a strain from other people? I thought the whole idea was to spread strains to as many people as you can so that you know your genetics have little chance of disappearing and so it has a chance of helping someone else. I dont know about you guys, but growing and sharing cannabis with others is one of my top favorite things to do and I cannot understand why you would want to keep something so beautiful and amazing to yourself, seems selfish.

highonmt · 03-02-2010, 05:17 PM

Ya you gotta love the seirra pine taste. I believe it's in the genetics of your particular pheno. I've smoked a bunch of real og in shasta/weed and it had an amazing smooth piney kush flavor. I've also smoked some that was suposedly legit but very unremarkable.
HM

simos · 11-09-2010, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by globel

thoughts on the origin of

Skywalker? Its the new craze this month.

Rumor is that it's a SFV S1 originally grown out in Lucas Valley. The cut may be out, but there are a lot of fakes floating around right now. I got three different impostors last year when I was actively looking for it before just giving up. IMO Skywalker has the most impressive immediate face-slap high of any of the OG variants.

I would agree with the above posters that it's all in the genetics. Some OGs just don't have the strongest pine terpene profiles.

hydr1 · 11-09-2010, 07:56 PM

The smell your looking for is in the genetics. The cut you have sounds like larry. To make it easy....every og cross that's washed out yields.
the true og cut will have no yield...branch like a spider and have that piney coffee smell.

Aromas can be brought forward by increasing terpines. Uvb light, fulvic and humic acids to break down the heavy amounts of calcium and magnesium she craves. The blue spectrum of light in week seven and low temps will help with this also.

If you use carbs ...don't use flavored. No berry or citrus bullshit.

Leave the plant on longer....og always looks and smells finished. Bring it back to basics and let it go another few days.

Bottom line...I don't care how old you are, how many dead shows you been to, how many posts you've made or how many online growers you thank.....if you don't have a good cut your chasing your tail.

Genetics and phenos might not change from the mother and she might have had the smell...but getting a cut from her that expresses the desired traits isn't always as easy as picking a branch and rooting it. I've noticed slight variations in size and smell between cuts from the same mother.

You can't run from the lemon bro...oghas chem and chem has lemon.

hydr1 · 11-09-2010, 08:08 PM

Ps....my real deal clone only og cut comes from clear lake california.

greenlabel · 11-11-2010, 03:40 AM

It's all about the grow conditions and foods... The best og comes from the 818, the valley recipe brings out the best flavor and smell by far... It's simple the best medicine you can get you're hands on...

hydr1 · 11-11-2010, 05:21 PM

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It's all about the grow conditions and foods... The best og comes from the 818, the valley recipe brings out the best flavor and smell by far... It's simple the best medicine you can get you're hands on...

Your trippen...im from La...I've smoked the best og I could find from san diego to canada. 818 is a joke hahahahahaaha

In your wildest dreams the washed out crossed out og claiming to be from the valley and its own reciepe hahahaha gtfo this shit is deff not the best. How could you even know that. It must be pretty good though cause its causing yoj to be delusional.

Bongstar420 · 12-20-2012, 10:48 PM

The entire process will have an effect on the product. Fragrance and flavor mature depending on what the fresh chemotype of the material is. Generally the treatment process will rely on oxidation rates more or less depending on your goal which will vary according to the environment and the plants chemotype. As for pine flavors, it seems that the best way is to get the gene that codes for Lynalyol pyrophosphate from Gernyl pyrophosphate which all psychoactive cannabis should have. I'm pretty sure that you will get Pinene in varying quantities in the offspring with that simple difference. Im just pretty sure there is probably a bunch of different ways to get Pinene's from Lynalyol pyrophosphate but I may be wrong. I can tell you one thing, Pinene is a heavy component of the actual resin. If its real Pine genes then you should be able to heat dry the stuff and still detect some pine flavor. Ive grown crosses that would yield heat process resin that was reminescent of Pinesol. I would imagine that the characteristic Pinesol scent was due to oxidation conditions since the resin was dark clearish. Toluene was the solvent extract. Im pretty sure I refluxed the stuff in the presence of Isopropanol and Hydrochloric acid and still had Pinesol aroma. So, just saying real, strong piney stuff isnt (or shouldn't be) a delicate thing to get. I think it is a rough and tumble trait. I would breed that Pine OG if I had some OG genetics and clients that would actually support me..>Which I don't (cant seem to get support for anything less than tip top shelf because Im not the mr social asslicker make the sale type). I do believe that I have the original stuff I got the Pine phenotypes from though Im not sure they are the specific cross since I didn't keep notes and lost a bunch of specific crosses to storage compromise. Ironically, the plants flowering structure is pine cone type cola on super short bushes mostly.lol. I gotta crack those open some time and look for that Pine now that I think about it.

If you wanted to cheat, you could simply cure the stuff with some pine oil in a breathable sub container. You just have to find the pine oil that you like because each individual tree is different. I like sweet slightly astringent pines mostly.

03-02-2010, 07:31 AM	#12
KUSHEATER1 I Need Kush,Kush Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: I need Kush Kush Posts: 811	very true all my og has stunk up the place and I have tried them all it's in the strain __________________ Bubba Kush and The Real Fire Og
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03-02-2010, 05:17 PM	#14
highonmt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: still searching Posts: 1,049	Ya you gotta love the seirra pine taste. I believe it's in the genetics of your particular pheno. I've smoked a bunch of real og in shasta/weed and it had an amazing smooth piney kush flavor. I've also smoked some that was suposedly legit but very unremarkable. HM __________________ "I told him not to smoke it, but he did and it took him far away" momma
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11-09-2010, 07:56 PM	#16
hydr1 set out runnin but i take my time Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Terrapin Station Posts: 302	The smell your looking for is in the genetics. The cut you have sounds like larry. To make it easy....every og cross that's washed out yields. the true og cut will have no yield...branch like a spider and have that piney coffee smell. Aromas can be brought forward by increasing terpines. Uvb light, fulvic and humic acids to break down the heavy amounts of calcium and magnesium she craves. The blue spectrum of light in week seven and low temps will help with this also. If you use carbs ...don't use flavored. No berry or citrus bullshit. Leave the plant on longer....og always looks and smells finished. Bring it back to basics and let it go another few days. Bottom line...I don't care how old you are, how many dead shows you been to, how many posts you've made or how many online growers you thank.....if you don't have a good cut your chasing your tail. Genetics and phenos might not change from the mother and she might have had the smell...but getting a cut from her that expresses the desired traits isn't always as easy as picking a branch and rooting it. I've noticed slight variations in size and smell between cuts from the same mother. You can't run from the lemon bro...oghas chem and chem has lemon.
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11-11-2010, 03:40 AM	#18
greenlabel Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 88	It's all about the grow conditions and foods... The best og comes from the 818, the valley recipe brings out the best flavor and smell by far... It's simple the best medicine you can get you're hands on...
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12-20-2012, 10:48 PM	#20
Bongstar420 Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: around Posts: 512	Pine Flavor The entire process will have an effect on the product. Fragrance and flavor mature depending on what the fresh chemotype of the material is. Generally the treatment process will rely on oxidation rates more or less depending on your goal which will vary according to the environment and the plants chemotype. As for pine flavors, it seems that the best way is to get the gene that codes for Lynalyol pyrophosphate from Gernyl pyrophosphate which all psychoactive cannabis should have. I'm pretty sure that you will get Pinene in varying quantities in the offspring with that simple difference. Im just pretty sure there is probably a bunch of different ways to get Pinene's from Lynalyol pyrophosphate but I may be wrong. I can tell you one thing, Pinene is a heavy component of the actual resin. If its real Pine genes then you should be able to heat dry the stuff and still detect some pine flavor. Ive grown crosses that would yield heat process resin that was reminescent of Pinesol. I would imagine that the characteristic Pinesol scent was due to oxidation conditions since the resin was dark clearish. Toluene was the solvent extract. Im pretty sure I refluxed the stuff in the presence of Isopropanol and Hydrochloric acid and still had Pinesol aroma. So, just saying real, strong piney stuff isnt (or shouldn't be) a delicate thing to get. I think it is a rough and tumble trait. I would breed that Pine OG if I had some OG genetics and clients that would actually support me..>Which I don't (cant seem to get support for anything less than tip top shelf because Im not the mr social asslicker make the sale type). I do believe that I have the original stuff I got the Pine phenotypes from though Im not sure they are the specific cross since I didn't keep notes and lost a bunch of specific crosses to storage compromise. Ironically, the plants flowering structure is pine cone type cola on super short bushes mostly.lol. I gotta crack those open some time and look for that Pine now that I think about it. If you wanted to cheat, you could simply cure the stuff with some pine oil in a breathable sub container. You just have to find the pine oil that you like because each individual tree is different. I like sweet slightly astringent pines mostly.
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02-28-2010, 07:01 AM	#11
globel Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 553	the valley had alot of shops shut down recently. Alot of that og is going to be coming down south for cheap. =) I work at a shop south of the valley and I still drive my way up there to window shop. I love the clinics with free samples... And the vapor lounges ..the one with the girls with the exposed boobies... Hey Bi0hazard whats your thoughts on the origin of Skywalker? Its the new craze this month. ....Oh and my take on getting og to smell right... NOTHING... real og will smell like it no matter what.. We take it out from a warehouse that its grown in and sell it 14 days later.
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11-09-2010, 08:08 PM	#17
hydr1 set out runnin but i take my time Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Terrapin Station Posts: 302	Ps....my real deal clone only og cut comes from clear lake california.
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