So Flouro, although I don't quite understand your answer, after doing more reading I'm coming to the conclusion that Mike is suggesting that we avoid adding nutrients at a solution greater than a certain level of EC, and then we monitor our plants and conclude when/if they could use more nutrients.

At first I thought there might be a way to measure this level in the soil, but about five minutes after my previous post, I realized this just ain't possible. Hey, I'm new at this!

So, to sum it up, we need to monitor the EC levels of our water/nutrient solution so as not to overdose the plant, and then watch the plant so we can decide when to add more nutrients. Is that about right?

[fluoro funkster]

yeah something like that ..an EC meter basically tells you exactly at what strength your nutrient solution is & how quickly & evenly it will be available to the plant

but yeah of course follow Mikes number's

there are also .."time released fert's" but these come mostly in synthetic(chemical) form ...but good quality type of ferts like these are extremely exspensive

what these do ..is that every time you water they basically react to the electric charge & release the nutrients as we call .."pump the plant" at certain time intervals ...peace

[fluoro funkster]

Originally Posted by MandalaMike

There is no bio stuff as far as I know. A cheap alternative to the osmosis is something like the Britt Filter used for the kitchen. It's a simple filter that removes calcium as well and costs about 50,- Euros with the plastic jug and all. You can then buy filter replacements.




Well, that must be dry weight or it would not impress much, hehe.
Too bad you haven't got a pic of that lady! But anyway that Afghani makes a good impression. I just love cannabis trees!

Grow on,
Mike

PS: are you on the Nirvana team?

yeah i was about to take a pic ...but a mountain behind me caught on fire & there were helicopter's & planes everywhere ...so i went into a panic & chopped it down

it might have needed another week ...but it was very hot that week ..& she matured enough i think ...premo smoke Mike

yeah kind of Mike ..iam an Admin at Nirvana & hopefully gonna breed for Mau in the future ..but nothing is for sure yet ..me & Mau still have alot of talking to do & thats not easy since he lives in Asia ...& the dutch system is very unstable now ...i really dont know what to do.. iam caught in between ya know ! ...peace

Well, I've been educating myself on EC and TDS, and this website has the best explanation I've found. Just a few paragraphs, written clearly and in layman's terms.

https://www.hydroponics.net/learn/deb...ec_and_tds.asp

[Dr.Ganja]

great reading mike!
what algoflash products do you use!
are they good?
i ve seen it alot in supermarkets but always thought they were crap!
are they 100% organic?
thanks!

p.s- by the way what do you think of canna bio line (biovega, bioflores and biobooster)

thanks again!! i have the hashberry on the #1 spot of my next to go list!
it's gone be a great lady for sure!!!!!1

[MandalaMike]

Originally Posted by Dr.Ganja

great reading mike!

Gracias, hope it keeps gardens safe and blooming...

Originally Posted by Dr.Ganja

what algoflash products do you use!
are they good?

They are great! I will never forget a foam matress grow I did with Algo Flash. Yeah, you read correctly... we planted the seeds in a bed. *lol*
This was in a country where there was no cannabis shop in sight, or any decent grow products for hydro. So we thought of buying foam rubber from a factory making matresses. *lol*
The only foreign brand fert was Algo Flash. It was a monster grow! Since then I am a believer...
They have broken more than 20 Guiness Book of World Records with their fertilizer range.

AlgoFlash has quite a large range. Formulas depend on which continent you are staying (ie. N. America or Europe). It's best to just check the NPK formula and see which fits best for cannabis. In Europe the Universal fert has 6-6-7 and is great for the veg time. The flowering ferts have 4-6-7 or something similar.

Originally Posted by Dr.Ganja

are they 100% organic?

No, they use minerals in high grade chelate form. This is why you can use their ferts even for hydro although they are strictly speaking for soil gardens.

Originally Posted by Dr.Ganja

p.s- by the way what do you think of canna bio line (biovega, bioflores and biobooster)

I have no experience with these products and haven't heard any feedback either. But perhaps someone else in the forum can help you out.
We grow organically in rich soil with worm manure and hardly feed at all. This way Mandala strains are genetically adapted to taking care of themselves with naturally available minerals, and "trained" to develop a good supply route throughout the plant. This is part of the method to make them easy-2-grow.

Originally Posted by Dr.Ganja

i have the hashberry on the #1 spot of my next to go list!
it's gone be a great lady for sure!!!!!1

Excellent.
Be sure to pamper us with some tantalizing details on your grow.

Grow on,
Mike

[Dr.Ganja]

thanks mike you are truely a great man!!!
i'm in portugal and algoflash is everywhere here at the big supermarkets, i will give it a try. i have two grow spots, one is going to be done the mandala way using little doses once a week of the bio line from canna. and the other will be done in grow beds using a soil mix with humus, guano bat(high p), guano peru(high n) and seaweed meal all from plagron, i also give my girls some fulvic acid(general hydroponics) with every watering and also some beneficial bacterias and fungi once a week. ah and i mix some michorrizas with the siol when i do the final transplant before flower.
what do you think brother!!!
thanks for your great help and honesty!!

p.s- i've heard that ec can't be accurately read when using 100% organic nutes, is that true? that question has kept me apart from buying one ec meter. could you make this question clear...
thanks again!!!!!

[Dr.Ganja]

hey mike could you please help me with the ec question?

[MandalaMike]

You would have to pose this question to the manufacturer of the product you are using. There are so many products on the market and each might differ in being more accurately displayed or not. With Bio Bizz I find that the EC can be measured quite accurately. But products that are heavily based on algae, etc. might be more difficult to measure.
Testing the soil for EC levels is a common method in agriculture which also shows that you can ascertain salt concentration in organic matter/solutions with an EC meter and use that as a guideline for fertilizing.

Grow on, Mike

[Sleepy]

Mike, i don't know if i have said this before or not....

this thread has changed the way i grow...

thank you so much!

the current garden looks better than it ever has!

hope you don't mind a piccie or two or three hehehe...



i'll be running some Kalichakra and hashberry next time.

thanks again for the information.