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Old 09-22-2009, 03:23 PM #21
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I am sorry but I don't publish my results very much as it is a lot of extra work and often I am using the results to do additional work that I prefer to finish before I announce the initial results. Dr Russo and others like the paper above will have to be a starting point for people who are searching for a particular cannabinoid to help a specific illness. But then the problem is how to obtain the cannabinoid as all cannabinoids are illegal in the USA even if not psychoactive. Funny the only legal one is THC in MARINOL.
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I remember all the testing you were doing a few years back and seperating all the components of cannabis, any links to your finding Sam?

As I remember (I'm a stoner), you did testing with each component and found one to give headaches and others to work on menstrual cramps and others to work on different ailments. Was there any strains tested on Autism?
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Old 09-22-2009, 08:50 AM #22
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Just wanted to jump in on this thread. We are starting to offer testing for THC/CBD/CBN via HPLC. Bulk testing will cost 50$ a sample. Contact me a at tortalk@gmail.com for more info.

As far as getting the high CBD. My feeling is to just use an industrial hemp line with high CBD, extract out a CBD fraction, and produce a edible or vapor product with the desired levels.

Not too much work if you are set up for it.
@ SamS I would love to talk to you more about some of your reseach. My post count is not high enough to PM yet, but if you want to contact me via email, I'd love to talk.

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Old 09-24-2009, 03:13 AM #23
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I am sorry but I don't publish my results very much as it is a lot of extra work and often I am using the results to do additional work that I prefer to finish before I announce the initial results. Dr Russo and others like the paper above will have to be a starting point for people who are searching for a particular cannabinoid to help a specific illness. But then the problem is how to obtain the cannabinoid as all cannabinoids are illegal in the USA even if not psychoactive. Funny the only legal one is THC in MARINOL.
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I was really hoping you could help,

I am a legal patient in Michigan and I can have 2.5 oz of usable Marihuana. That also includes extracts as far as hashish and oil. (the way the state spells it) . So if I have it all separated and not in usable form to the health department, I can have unlimited amount of seeds, stems and leaves , I would think I could also have unlimited amounts of the non psychotropic cannabiniods . We will see in the court system soon I would believe.


But the best part is I can be a caregiver for up to 5 other patients that can't or don't want to grow. I can have 12 plants for myself, 12 plants for each patient and 2.5 oz of usable mj for each one with having 2.5 of their own . That gives me a total of 72 plants to care for and I would believe with that I could help out in the the overall testing of this plant. It is not on a commercial level but it is still testing and proving to the people of earth that we need this plant legal with out restriction.

So if you do find any links that could help me out I would greatly appreciate it.


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Old 09-24-2009, 09:22 AM #24
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Industrial hemp is a poor source of CBD in fact. GW Pharmaceuticals makes CBD from a plant that gives close to 10% CBD by dry weight with little to no THC. Hemp is closer to 1% CBD and does have THC which needs to be removed via HPLC. I don't think extracting CBD from a 1% raw material source makes any sense when 10% materials are used for the same thing. Sure it can be done, but not cheaply or competitively. If you wanted to extract CBD which would you use?
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What would I use? The one that was available to work with.

Where is one of those 10% strains? How much do they cost?
Yep .. I know .. GW has them. I just have to wait.
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No I have no advice for anyone other then to say that imported Afghan seeds, direct from Afghanistan are usually 25% high CBD, 25% high THC, and 50% a mixture of THC/CBD.
If I grow out a batch of these seeds,is it unreasonable to presume that I have one of the high CBD plants if it doesn't have any psychoactive effect, also assuming that some of its sisters do have a THC effect? Yes, need to verify with testing but I'd like to keep the costs down.
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FINOLA is not a good source of CBD because of the small CBD content, and the THC levels in an extract will be 1-5% or more requiring clean up via HPLC. Say the extract is 50% CBD & 5% THC.
I understand the reasons why people are so desperate if they believe CBD could help them or a loved one. But finding the clones of plants confirmed to have CBD might be easier, maybe. Try Harborside if they say no then you have to find or make one, and then confirm it is high CBD. Smoking does not work for CBD analysis, as CBD does not get you stoned, but THC/CBD varieties do. And terpenoids can change the effects of THC to almost mimic CBD.
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If Finola is not a good source for CBD, what about Lebanese strains or Kullu Manali / Parvati?I don't wanna clean up THC by HPLC, since i believe you need the THC.Harborside is not an option since they don't even answer the email i have send twice to them about the strain they have found with 5.8% CBD.
I agree that certain terpenoids can change the effect of THC.

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Sorry for not being up on things but what is this "HPLC" clean up about?

Damn I have to keep up
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HPLC means High Pressure Liquid Chromatography.You can use it to get rid of some constituents which you dont wanna have.

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Thanks Elmanito.
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Old 09-24-2009, 03:13 PM #30
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HPLC means High Pressure Liquid Chromatography.You can use it to get rid of some constituents which you dont wanna have.
LOL

I used to work in a Dow chem. lab. We had a HPGC machine there we used all the time.

My wife works in a blood lab at a local hospital. I just tried this out on her also.

"Hey honey, what does HP stand for? You know, for a chromatography machine?"
"Hewlett Packard. why?"

LOL OK .. high pressure, not the computer company.
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