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Old 09-17-2009, 11:50 PM #11
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Old 09-18-2009, 12:00 PM #12
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Industrial hemp is a poor source of CBD in fact. GW Pharmaceuticals makes CBD from a plant that gives close to 10% CBD by dry weight with little to no THC. Hemp is closer to 1% CBD and does have THC which needs to be removed via HPLC.
I thought that GW Pharmaceuticals had a strain in their possession of 98% CBD and a THC strain of 98% THC.
In researches i saw some hemp strains mainly from Turkey which had a CBD-content of 5% CBD.Even some varieties of Vavilov Institute were higher than 1% CBD than what you say above.The strain Finola can have a CBD content of 4-5%.
What can you tell about the strain USO-31?????

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Fri, September 18, 2009

By JOE BELANGER, LONDON FREE PRESS

It may look like wacky tobacky, but the only kick you'll get off this bud is sick.

Stratford Police have issued a public alert after reports of people - "adults and youth" - helping themselves to a crop of commercial hemp that looks like marijuana but instead of delivering a high can make users "violently ill" with severe headaches, nausea and vomiting.

The crop, located just south of the Festival Marketplace Mall off C.H Meier Blvd., has become the target of thieves, police say.

"People, both adults and youth, have been going onto the property and stealing the crop, thinking it is marijuana," said Insp. Sam Theocharis."

"Our biggest concern is from a public-safety standpoint. Hemp is not meant for ingestion and the user will become violently ill and may very well require hospital care."



Police have notified Stratford General Hospital and made them aware of the possibility that people may arrive at the emergency unit suffering the ill effects of hemp ingestion, said Theocharis.

Police have also notified the producer of the crop.

"This situation also goes beyond the health risk to people taking the plant," said Theocharis. "Most notably, this is a legally produced crop and people taking the plant are stealing. In Canada, it is also an offence to have hemp or to sell it if you are not legally licensed to do so."

Hemp and marijuana are both members of the cannabis family and look similar.

Hemp is used in the production of health supplements, fibre, paper, textiles and even building materials.

Theocharis said the most significant difference in the presence of THC (tetrahydrocannabino) in marijuana. THC is the chemical that provides the "high" associated with marijuana.

Theocharis said the theft of hemp is a new problem in the region since it has only been produced legally in Canada since 1998.

Police said anyone who has taken any hemp to discard it.
Hmmmm .. I wonder what someone would want all that hemp for ...
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:04 AM #14
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Industrial hemp is a poor source of CBD in fact. GW Pharmaceuticals makes CBD from a plant that gives close to 10% CBD by dry weight with little to no THC. Hemp is closer to 1% CBD and does have THC which needs to be removed via HPLC. I don't think extracting CBD from a 1% raw material source makes any sense when 10% materials are used for the same thing. Sure it can be done, but not cheaply or competitively. If you wanted to extract CBD which would you use?
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Goddamnit, I want some 10% CBD seeds. No THC no problem, they blend tobaccos I can blend it with high THC buds if they're actually needed.

If I wanted to extract CBD from a high THC plant or from a high CBD plant? From the latter I'd betcha that the same process for extracting concentrated would work. Alcohol, butane, naptha, water hash. Just don't expect to get a THC high. I'm pretty sure that most of the CBD is coming out in current extractions in high THC pot, but I wouldn't have a clue how to separate them, so to the former, "I don't know", but I'm sure someone could figure it out.

One of the most ironic things about prohibition is the absolute inability to easily find seeds of non-psychoactive cannabis plants. Oh, you want 25% THC no problem, fill out the order form they're at your door in days. What, you want no THC seeds in the US? Fucking forget about it. The law of unintended consequences indeed.
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Old 09-21-2009, 05:17 AM #15
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Any testing results you can give us Sam?

Any good strain to get the most cbd's from that you could recommend?

Thanks for putting so much time in to all the testing you have did and do you have a thread with any results you found with using just a few of the compounds in cannabis ?

I am now a med patient and a caregiver for an autistic young lady and would love to hear anything I can on what might help with seizures she has.

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i'm looking for a high CBD plant as well. i'd like to cross it with something else and dial it in just right.
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:11 AM #17
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I see all kinds of claims of high CBD but good luck trying to find any of the seeds. If you do somehow find them then try and confirm the CBD levels.

elmanito, try and get the seeds you mention, BTW the CBD levels are not as high as you think, Finola is not 5% CBD, I have grown it and tested it.

No I have no advice for anyone other then to say that imported Afghan seeds, direct from Afghanistan are usually 25% high CBD, 25% high THC, and 50% a mixture of THC/CBD. But you still need to confirm the cannabinoid profile of any suspected high CBD individuals. Harborside has a 5% CBD variety with THC I believe. If you selfed the variety the f2's would have individuals with only CBD, again this needs to be confirmed via GC analysis, that you in fact have a high CBD only strain. If that is what you want.
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Finola is not 5% CBD, I have grown it and tested it.
Like i said can have but its a needle in a haystack.You have to grow at least 1 acre of this variety to find one, but it is possible.The variety is still under probation in Canada & Europe, because of exceeding the 0.2% THC once a while.

https://www.finola.com/Finola%20THC%2...0EU%20regs.pdf

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Old 09-22-2009, 01:56 PM #19
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I remember all the testing you were doing a few years back and seperating all the components of cannabis, any links to your finding Sam?

As I remember (I'm a stoner), you did testing with each component and found one to give headaches and others to work on menstrual cramps and others to work on different ailments. Was there any strains tested on Autism?

I wasn't ready for this to happen yet and I mixed all my trims together last year and made a large batch of bubble hash. We have been using that on a autistic 22yr old and it seems to have taken away most of the small seizures and making the grand mals less severe. Is there anything you can recommend for me to grow or try with this young lady? She has been with the University of Michigan for quite a while and was a guinea pig so to speak with all their meds and nothing seemed to work as good as my hash does. Her teacher is even very impressed with what she is seeing.
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Old 09-22-2009, 03:09 PM #20
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I have grown much more then 1 acre of FINOLA. If you have to test even 1 acre of FINOLA to find one that might have high CBD, it will cost a hell of a lot. GC analysis is in the range of $100 per test, so to test the thousands of plants of FINOLA in an acre is un-do-able. Even at $10 a test it is un-do-able to 10,000's of plants. I am an old friend of Jace's, I gave him the advice to breed FINOLA. FINOLA is not a good source of CBD because of the small CBD content, and the THC levels in an extract will be 1-5% or more requiring clean up via HPLC. Say the extract is 50% CBD & 5% THC.
I understand the reasons why people are so desperate if they believe CBD could help them or a loved one. But finding the clones of plants confirmed to have CBD might be easier, maybe. Try Harborside if they say no then you have to find or make one, and then confirm it is high CBD. Smoking does not work for CBD analysis, as CBD does not get you stoned, but THC/CBD varieties do. And terpenoids can change the effects of THC to almost mimic CBD.
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Like i said can have but its a needle in a haystack.You have to grow at least 1 acre of this variety to find one, but it is possible.The variety is still under probation in Canada & Europe, because of exceeding the 0.2% THC once a while.

https://www.finola.com/Finola%20THC%2...0EU%20regs.pdf





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