[Kanye WeED]

All sugar daddy really is is molasses and water correct?

well if u put some black strap molasses in with some water and mix it and let it set can u use it like sugar daddy on a soil grow?

i know it isnt organic but it would be if u made ur own correct?

thanks guys sorry if this is the wrong forum!!!

[LadyLargely]

You sure can buddy!

But like all 'raw' ferts molasses works best pre-digested. I would add it to water along with some other mild ferts and then bubble for a couple of days, though you can bubble straight molasses water by itself. Aerobic bacteria will come along and munch on the bits of the molasses that the plants can't consume like the raw carbohydrates, leaving only the desirable stuff behind like lots of magnesium and iron.

You could add some molasses water to your medium/hydro system straight but trust me, you'll be way better off bubbling it first.

[Kanye WeED]

Originally Posted by LadyLargely

You sure can buddy!

But like all 'raw' ferts molasses works best pre-digested. I would add it to water along with some other mild ferts and then bubble for a couple of days, though you can bubble straight molasses water by itself. Aerobic bacteria will come along and munch on the bits of the molasses that the plants can't consume like the raw carbohydrates, leaving only the desirable stuff behind like lots of magnesium and iron.

You could add some molasses water to your medium/hydro system straight but trust me, you'll be way better off bubbling it first.

hey thanks, so do u think there is actually a certain amount of molasses water i can store, and it be just like sugar daddy??

sounds like u know ur stuff

my local hydro shop guy just stop carrying the stuff for some reason he would get a fine if he had it so i just wanna make my own

how much should i add to say a gallon of water?

what is all in sugar daddy?

anything else i can add to help out the sugar daddy wanna be mix?

thanks alot for the response!!!

[*mistress*]

1 tbspn of blackstrap per gal will be fine. wheter bubbled prior to app or not. chelates, buffers, & adds sugars for microbes.

[Citizen024]

I previously posted a thread about homemade Sweet/Sugar Daddy. Go read that for more info. If your going to make a bunch and store it, I recommend doing this: concentrate it.

Boil water, add brown sugar/mollasses/ whatever the fuck sugar your into. Add a ratio so that your end up knowing how much water you have for every tsp of sugar. For example- if I use 32 ounces of water, and I add 64 tsp of mollasses, then I know that for every 1/2 ounce of solution I have 1 gallons worth of nutrient solution dilution. So- 15 gallon res would need 7.5 ounces of your concentrated sugar water.

The boiling does two things: kills all life, and allows you to form super saturated solutions on dissolved sugar.

NOW then, Sugar Daddy/Sweet are MORE then just sugar, they contain epsom salts too. So, same same, add epsom at ratio of 1/8-1/4 tsp per gallon, per the ratio. So continuing with the example; 1/8-1/4 tsp per 1/2 ounce of water. Boiling water will also make this dissolve better.

Keep it closed up. You can refrig it, which is best. Overtime you may see sugar crystals percipitate out if you make it really concentrated. Congradulations! You will have just made rock candy.

LadyL is right on the money though- fuck sweetener products, just make your homemade aerated compost teas.

I will never buy sugar products again, $45-60/gal. Fuck that. It's just too easy to make composted teas.

[*mistress*]

this is what is done here:
10 gal tote collected condensation run-off from ac drain.

~5 gals are dehumidified every 24-26 hours. when want to make 5 gals of tea, just add:

1-2 oz (2-4 tbspn) 3% h202
3 oz (6 tbspn) molasses [3 wholesome sweeteners; 3 livestock feed]
1 oz (2 tbspn) millet
1 oz (2 tbspn) corn meal gluten

since drain from ac is on condenser side, exhaust from heat helps stew mix. when 5 gals is reached (by mark in tote), is drained into 5 gal bucket & sits @ room temp until application. 1/2 garden gets only this, other 1/2 gets traditional ferts. traditional ferts are mixed in ac drain water too...

enjoy your garden!

[Kanye WeED]

Originally Posted by *mistress*

this is what is done here:
10 gal tote collected condensation run-off from ac drain.

~5 gals are dehumidified every 24-26 hours. when want to make 5 gals of tea, just add:

1-2 oz (2-4 tbspn) 3% h202
3 oz (6 tbspn) molasses [3 wholesome sweeteners; 3 livestock feed]
1 oz (2 tbspn) millet
1 oz (2 tbspn) corn meal gluten

since drain from ac is on condenser side, exhaust from heat helps stew mix. when 5 gals is reached (by mark in tote), is drained into 5 gal bucket & sits @ room temp until application. 1/2 garden gets only this, other 1/2 gets traditional ferts. traditional ferts are mixed in ac drain water too...

enjoy your garden!

wow i have no idea what half that stuff is and im sure i could find it but wouldnt it just be cheaper to by the sugar daddy, lol

j/k

im on it and its on my list

hope that stuff aint expensive tho damn

i want something thats kinda the same thickness and ratio to gallon like say sugar daddy is 4 tsp per gallon thats the kind of stuff i wanna make!!

hopefully i can follow citizens recipe for that

but does any one know what id have to do to have the same concentration as the real sugar daddy or is that what u gave me THE REAL sugar daddy recipe

give or take of course

thanks!!!

[Kanye WeED]

Originally Posted by Citizen024

I previously posted a thread about homemade Sweet/Sugar Daddy. Go read that for more info. If your going to make a bunch and store it, I recommend doing this: concentrate it.

Boil water, add brown sugar/mollasses/ whatever the fuck sugar your into. Add a ratio so that your end up knowing how much water you have for every tsp of sugar. For example- if I use 32 ounces of water, and I add 64 tsp of mollasses, then I know that for every 1/2 ounce of solution I have 1 gallons worth of nutrient solution dilution. So- 15 gallon res would need 7.5 ounces of your concentrated sugar water.

The boiling does two things: kills all life, and allows you to form super saturated solutions on dissolved sugar.

NOW then, Sugar Daddy/Sweet are MORE then just sugar, they contain epsom salts too. So, same same, add epsom at ratio of 1/8-1/4 tsp per gallon, per the ratio. So continuing with the example; 1/8-1/4 tsp per 1/2 ounce of water. Boiling water will also make this dissolve better.

Keep it closed up. You can refrig it, which is best. Overtime you may see sugar crystals percipitate out if you make it really concentrated. Congradulations! You will have just made rock candy.

LadyL is right on the money though- fuck sweetener products, just make your homemade aerated compost teas.

I will never buy sugar products again, $45-60/gal. Fuck that. It's just too easy to make composted teas.

thanks man, sounds like a recipe to follow

no doubt here it will work!!!

[*mistress*]

Originally Posted by Kanye WeED

wow i have no idea what half that stuff is and im sure i could find it but wouldnt it just be cheaper to by the sugar daddy, lol

j/k

im on it and its on my list

hope that stuff aint expensive tho damn

i want something thats kinda the same thickness and ratio to gallon like say sugar daddy is 4 tsp per gallon thats the kind of stuff i wanna make!!

hopefully i can follow citizens recipe for that

but does any one know what id have to do to have the same concentration as the real sugar daddy or is that what u gave me THE REAL sugar daddy recipe

give or take of course

thanks!!!

what is the primary objective for adding 'sugar daddy'? isnt this a new product? has it had peer review? what does it supposed to do & how much does it cost; if cost is factor?



1-2 oz (2-4 tbspn) 3% h202
[1 gallon - 6 coins]

3 oz (6 tbspn) molasses [3 wholesome sweeteners; 3 livestock feed]
[wholesome sweeteners - 1 pint - 5 coins; livestock molasses 5 gallons - 25 coins]

1 oz (2 tbspn) millet
[organic millet, uncooked - 24oz - 2 coins]

1 oz (2 tbspn) corn meal gluten
[organic corn gluten meal, 24oz - 2coins]

total: 40 sheets of paper

total amount of tea that can be made, using above ratio:
unknown (lots...)

[rrog]

Originally Posted by *mistress*

this is what is done here:

1-2 oz (2-4 tbspn) 3% h202

Kills off micro-life. Just to keep in mind