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Old 08-21-2009, 07:50 AM #1
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Breeding with wild hemp

First post on icmag here, long time reader though.

Recently I've come across multiple patches of wild hemp growing alongside the numerous gravel roads around here (midwest). They're easy as hell to spot once you know what you're lookin' for.

I know the general consensus is that there is no smokable worth to wild hemp. However, I have clipped several (immature) bud samples from these plants, dried them out, and smoked them. Some that came from one patch gave absolutely no buzz yet some from another patch did pack a short lasting punch. What a weird smoke that one was.


Anyway, I have some questions that I'm curious about. I've searched high and low all over this forum and read a lot of interesting things written by a lot of very knowledgeable people, but have seen nothing that addressed what I would like to know


1) I've read that wild hemp has a higher concentration of CBD as opposed to a modern breeder's strain. That reasoning being that CBD was bred out as a result of breeding for a higher THC content. CBD apparently has more medicinal benefits than THC. My question is has anyone ever bred modern high THC strains with a supposed high CBD strain like my midwest hemp?

2) Has anyone ever collected these wild hemp seeds and selectively grown them in a semi-controlled environment? Or at least an environment where open pollination wasn't allowed?

3) Is there a demand for midwest landrace seeds like these? I mean if I'm this damn interested in them, then there must be others who'd like to get their hands on some beans.
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Old 08-22-2009, 03:03 AM #2
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I have grown a hemp hybrid that I found in a strong patch, had wide indica leaf, that is what told me it was a hybrid. There is no market for the seed, and it is heavy hermy anyway. The cbd angle is one I thought of too, but have no energy to chase it.
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Old 08-23-2009, 03:46 AM #3
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I have grown a hemp hybrid that I found in a strong patch, had wide indica leaf, that is what told me it was a hybrid. There is no market for the seed, and it is heavy hermy anyway. The cbd angle is one I thought of too, but have no energy to chase it.
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:11 AM #4
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CBD is found in much larger quantities in land race strains that have genes of wild hemp. For example Afgany hash is supposed to have high levels of CBD due to the land race in the area being co mingled with High CBD hemp in the area.

For more information download issue 17 of treating yourself for free and see article starting @ page 23
https://www.treatingyourself.com/pdf/issue17.pdf

a side note I am growing some Mazar-I-Sharif freebies and hoping to incorporate it into a homemade medical strain and I'm counting on high CBD levels.
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Old 08-23-2009, 05:35 AM #5
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im going breed some here,(stil got seeds from last season, dont think its hemp tho, some is, some ruddilis(or how ever you spell it(but not around where i currently live)),some smells really fruity and sticky to the touch, this year im making hash out of them. the buds are big and they finish early, the people that lived here was farmers and sold seed, they also smoked weed so im thinking they planted some outside , but how would i tell how much cbd it has? and how do i retain that when im breeding for thc?
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Old 08-23-2009, 01:07 PM #6
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There was a time, I think maybe around 1982, there was a crapload of big fat buds being peddled around my area. These buds were very large, sticky, and smelly. These buds would also not get a flea high. I will never forget them, as they brought on a very deep anxiety...not from the effects of the weed, but because it looked like the best weed anyone would every encounter, yet you could smoke and smoke and get nothing more than a glorified headache.
Word was that some geek got a hold of some of indica and crossed it to our ditchweed.
(big fat indica buds were a novelty at this time)
I remember lots of shit started over that big ass crap bud, when folks refused to pay for fronts.

Ditchweed of today is probably much better than it used to be, as there are lots of grower in the woods these days, and their pollen surely intermingles. But to purposely breed with it is a mistake, IMO.
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Old 08-23-2009, 02:46 PM #7
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We can buy hempseed by the kilo in GB for use as fishing bait - it's meant to be sterile, but I did a soak-test last year on some and they all split fine, but I couldn't be bothered to grow any out - I planted some in the garden when I was a kid, and they came up fine until my mother saw them, but as I was about 12 at the time, there was no harm done!

The really large seeds are usually Chilean, and are preferred for fishing, as they're easier to get on the hook - you soak them overnight and then cook them for about 20 mins until the split is visible. Fish absolutely adore hempseed, as it's full of protein, amino acids and vitamins, and tastes really nice too, especially with a little strawberry flavouring...I won't go into the dark arts of fishbait flavours here, but suffice to say it's a complex one!

Sensas are a French company who have taken hemp-based products to a new level - their 'grilled hemp' is absolutely delicious:

https://www.tackleuk.co.uk/sensas-gi...mp-p-2081.html

But as to growing hemp, I'm really not sure whether there's much to be gained in terms of CBD-rich strains, if that's all it is - doesn't it need THC to modulate? I don't think CBD and other cannabinoids are that active in exclusion...?
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Old 08-23-2009, 03:27 PM #8
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In the UK you can buy Chinese seeds for food.These seeds are better than those at the fish bait shop.
To analyse the CBD-content you must do a TLC-test, otherwise its only guessing.

https://www.ethicalsuperstore.com/pro...mp-seeds-125g/

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if you got wild hemp can't you do the iso extraction then isomerize it to get lots of free iso oil?
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To analyse the CBD-content you must do a TLC-test, otherwise its only guessing...

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Looking good Elmanito! Nice to see the project coming along!
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