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Bonzo · 10-07-2005, 09:02 AM

Bud rot sucks, i have delt with it alot in my past 3 grows, i detect it by a dying leaf coming out of the bud, if i see one sure as shit , spread tha bud apart and BAM! bud rot. I m going the dehumidifier route and i also have vastly improved my intake /exhaust and overall air curculation. Well see what happens, right now im fighting the BORG (MITES) they suck!

BONZ

Bonzo · 10-07-2005, 09:09 AM

I can relate Benito this bueaty was claimed by rot:

And the real bummer was it set in at a very early stage and hit alot of the smaller buds as well so i had no choice but to chop her.

Just out of curiosity ,what strain gave you a 3 oz cola?

peace

bonz

BenitoCereno · 10-07-2005, 10:04 PM

I kind on knew I was going to get called out on that one, I was pretty high when I posted that bold claim

That 3 OZ was like 5 seconds after chop weight so that is like what I call "fisherman" weight sorry.

The strain was WYD. I've been doing this to my plants

to maximize space and to stop them from getting burnt on the HPS(sort of like am ugly scrog without the chicken wire thingee. And sometimes this happens.

But sometimes this happens too

Oh I don't want to highjack this thread more then I already have sooo...to get back to the subject of bubblers, the big bud next to the jameson bottle was grown using a crappy Emily's Garden...the simplest of the bubble newbie method...so don't let the guys at the grow shop try to sell you on some expensive NFT or Aero system...unless you got the cash and like to mess around...you can grow fatties, cheaply and easily.

know_one · 10-08-2005, 03:06 AM

Hi Dr. D
I love this thread and the simple set up.
I started this new grow yesterday and have a question about how much light can get in through top cover.
I have the outside of bucket covered so that no light can enter from sides, however, the top is just the lid that came with bucket and is not completely opaque.
How much light can safely get into bucket without causing too much algea?
Thanks.

5 gallon bucket with top cut

with screen added

after adding pellets, airstone, and cuttings.

top view

Dr. D · 10-08-2005, 08:50 PM

Hey all true i was lookin at those submersible air pumps, onlly problem being wen the roots fill the bucket they cud engulf the pump...i also thought it may let off too much heat sat in such a small amount of water...is u temp ok with lights on? if so it will more than likely get hotter with lights on and that will cause problems root rot etc. id go for a heat mat then set it to go on wen the lights go off a 12 x 12 inch heat mat is quite cheap and only 12 watt.
Hey know one if u can get some aluminium tappe and cove rthe lids with it that will block out any light. Just to be sure, u dont want any light getting in...be sure to post some pics of ur grow here or give me a link to to grow thread...peace

1977m · 10-09-2005, 06:20 AM

hi to all..whats are the optimal temp for flowering? and whats the lowest...i dont want to freeze my babys in cold mouths hehe...for now im having between 17-19C with lights off and 21-25C with lights on...should i make some changes??
tnx:-)
1 more q...
how about temperature of water&nutriens?
tnx again

10-09-2005, 07:19 AM

that sounds great to me 1977m

water should be around 70 fahrenheit if im not mistaken, and definitely not 80 or more. hope im not passing false information im just going by what i remember and im high and tired.

Mary, Mary · 10-09-2005, 08:53 AM

Hi all,

My understanding is the same as BuzzBoy. 80's is a little too high and 68 is about the minimum, during lights on. Lights off I'm not sure it matters that much. I also like Dr. D's idea about the hot pad, maybe wrap it around pot (electrical possibilities?).

I also saw several entries about the air pump in bubblers. Where I come from, they recommend using the larger of the two pumps Wal-Mart sells (in the pet/aquarium section), with their air stones. Their tubing is clear and you really need black. I got mine where they sell sprinkler/drip systems for the garden (Home Depot). It's what I use, cheap, available, and easy, as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure you could do better, but why? It works.

They also recommend wrapping the buckets (lids also) with some sort of light shield. Light in the res will cause algae to grow which will kill the plants. I use black/white plastic. I would guess this would help insulate the bucket to keep the temp fairly constant and not effected by lights/night temps as much??

And those are my thoughts on the matter, for what it's worth

All the best,
Mary

1977m · 10-09-2005, 09:25 AM

tnx Buzz and Mary...so; no less than 68F (20C) for water in tank..now its around 21C...just on the start of the "day" is around 19C(66F)...air temp...is 16-17C(60F-62F) too low for "night"?
tnx...&stay high
btw...for tank i use a 25liters picnic cooling bag..:-))..so no need for insulation... airpump&airstone is missing in there...will buy as soon as possible...

know_one · 10-09-2005, 06:28 PM

Thanks for help concerning light through top.
I'll start a thread and post pics of grow as it progresses.

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Originally Posted by Dr. D

Hey know one if u can get some aluminium tappe and cove rthe lids with it that will block out any light. Just to be sure, u dont want any light getting in...be sure to post some pics of ur grow here or give me a link to to grow thread...peace

10-07-2005, 09:02 AM	#111
Bonzo Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: not quite sure Posts: 4,008	Bud rot sucks, i have delt with it alot in my past 3 grows, i detect it by a dying leaf coming out of the bud, if i see one sure as shit , spread tha bud apart and BAM! bud rot. I m going the dehumidifier route and i also have vastly improved my intake /exhaust and overall air curculation. Well see what happens, right now im fighting the BORG (MITES) they suck! BONZ __________________ Bonzo BoUnCeS back... FREEDOM for BONZ "When one objectively acknowledges, accepts, and embraces one's weaknesses; they in fact, no longer continue to be that."(PTD)
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10-07-2005, 09:09 AM	#112
Bonzo Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: not quite sure Posts: 4,008	I can relate Benito this bueaty was claimed by rot: And the real bummer was it set in at a very early stage and hit alot of the smaller buds as well so i had no choice but to chop her. Just out of curiosity ,what strain gave you a 3 oz cola? peace bonz __________________ Bonzo BoUnCeS back... FREEDOM for BONZ "When one objectively acknowledges, accepts, and embraces one's weaknesses; they in fact, no longer continue to be that."(PTD) Last edited by Bonzo; 10-07-2005 at 09:11 AM..
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10-08-2005, 03:06 AM	#114
know_one Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 33	how much light through top? Hi Dr. D I love this thread and the simple set up. I started this new grow yesterday and have a question about how much light can get in through top cover. I have the outside of bucket covered so that no light can enter from sides, however, the top is just the lid that came with bucket and is not completely opaque. How much light can safely get into bucket without causing too much algea? Thanks. 5 gallon bucket with top cut with screen added after adding pellets, airstone, and cuttings. top view
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10-08-2005, 08:50 PM	#115
Dr. D Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for Shambhala.. Posts: 3,179	Hey all true i was lookin at those submersible air pumps, onlly problem being wen the roots fill the bucket they cud engulf the pump...i also thought it may let off too much heat sat in such a small amount of water...is u temp ok with lights on? if so it will more than likely get hotter with lights on and that will cause problems root rot etc. id go for a heat mat then set it to go on wen the lights go off a 12 x 12 inch heat mat is quite cheap and only 12 watt. Hey know one if u can get some aluminium tappe and cove rthe lids with it that will block out any light. Just to be sure, u dont want any light getting in...be sure to post some pics of ur grow here or give me a link to to grow thread...peace __________________ Roots.....its all in the roots!!! To fathom hell or soar angelic Just take a pinch of psychedelic Humphrey Osmond
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10-09-2005, 06:20 AM	#116
1977m Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 26	hi to all..whats are the optimal temp for flowering? and whats the lowest...i dont want to freeze my babys in cold mouths hehe...for now im having between 17-19C with lights off and 21-25C with lights on...should i make some changes?? tnx:-) 1 more q... how about temperature of water&nutriens? tnx again Last edited by 1977m; 10-09-2005 at 06:29 AM..
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10-07-2005, 10:04 PM	#113
BenitoCereno Self-Hating Gnostic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: On the far left end of the couch, shaving my cat... Posts: 490	I kind on knew I was going to get called out on that one, I was pretty high when I posted that bold claim That 3 OZ was like 5 seconds after chop weight so that is like what I call "fisherman" weight sorry. The strain was WYD. I've been doing this to my plants to maximize space and to stop them from getting burnt on the HPS(sort of like am ugly scrog without the chicken wire thingee. And sometimes this happens. But sometimes this happens too Oh I don't want to highjack this thread more then I already have sooo...to get back to the subject of bubblers, the big bud next to the jameson bottle was grown using a crappy Emily's Garden...the simplest of the bubble newbie method...so don't let the guys at the grow shop try to sell you on some expensive NFT or Aero system...unless you got the cash and like to mess around...you can grow fatties, cheaply and easily.
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10-09-2005, 07:19 AM	#117
BuzzBoy Guest Posts: n/a	that sounds great to me 1977m water should be around 70 fahrenheit if im not mistaken, and definitely not 80 or more. hope im not passing false information im just going by what i remember and im high and tired.
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10-09-2005, 08:53 AM	#118
Mary, Mary Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 118	Hi all, My understanding is the same as BuzzBoy. 80's is a little too high and 68 is about the minimum, during lights on. Lights off I'm not sure it matters that much. I also like Dr. D's idea about the hot pad, maybe wrap it around pot (electrical possibilities?). I also saw several entries about the air pump in bubblers. Where I come from, they recommend using the larger of the two pumps Wal-Mart sells (in the pet/aquarium section), with their air stones. Their tubing is clear and you really need black. I got mine where they sell sprinkler/drip systems for the garden (Home Depot). It's what I use, cheap, available, and easy, as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure you could do better, but why? It works. They also recommend wrapping the buckets (lids also) with some sort of light shield. Light in the res will cause algae to grow which will kill the plants. I use black/white plastic. I would guess this would help insulate the bucket to keep the temp fairly constant and not effected by lights/night temps as much?? And those are my thoughts on the matter, for what it's worth All the best, Mary __________________ 50 - 70 ppm = 1 CF = .1 EC and 5 ml = 5 cc = 1 teaspoon Last edited by Mary, Mary; 10-09-2005 at 09:00 AM.. Reason: Clarify entry
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10-09-2005, 09:25 AM	#119
1977m Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 26	tnx Buzz and Mary...so; no less than 68F (20C) for water in tank..now its around 21C...just on the start of the "day" is around 19C(66F)...air temp...is 16-17C(60F-62F) too low for "night"? tnx...&stay high btw...for tank i use a 25liters picnic cooling bag..:-))..so no need for insulation... airpump&airstone is missing in there...will buy as soon as possible...
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