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10-04-2005, 10:10 PM

Ok Dr_D
Quick question what size of pump would be good to run a bin that holds 18 gallons?
Or should i go smaller size bin? I want to run 2 of them.. with 2 or 3 plants per bin.. Please let me know as i want to get this made tonight... Also pet store i can get airstones yes? Well a different selection than at wally world.. Also do you put the cuttig in a smaller net pot then put that into the final bigger net pot..? Ohh also would i thelp to put the airstone on a base in the bins to get it closer to the top iof the bin? Sorry for so mant questions..Thanx and ill be back later today..

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Dr. D · 10-04-2005, 10:26 PM

Hey sacko i use a 100 litre air pump on one bucket so u will need a good size pump(best with 2-3 outlets)...how long u thinkin of veggin for?? i think three plants woulld go ok in that size tub with a short veg time...i go two weeks max. but it cud get cramped with three plants if they get branchy. im sue u willl be able to get airstones from the pet store..and they are best at the bbottom of the tub/bucket, u put ur clone straight into the 6 inch pot(thats wot i use) uthen have the water level over ht ebottom of the pots so the roots get time to ome out into the water....good luck

10-04-2005, 10:30 PM

Dr_D
Thanx bro. I will go and buy me my pump and a lil more tubing airstones and im off my clones are almost ready to go in.. So kinda in a hurry dont want to lose these babies.. Ohh where to get the pump Home depot? peace..

Sack's First Outdoor Grow
LQQK see.. All new updates
Sack's Bubbledust Outdoor Grow
Sack's Cappuccino OD Grow
Sack's Limon OD Grow

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Harry Gypsna · 10-04-2005, 10:46 PM

chhers for the 20 quid enviros mate...gonna get one tomorrow.... thanks dude....ima get a truncheon next week too, brand new 55 quid, thazts a price i lkike!
Bolan, I didnt say before, but those round airstones came from a growshop.....
Well I changed the nutes out last night...and then i got a fecking leak from the level indicator.....Ive just read my hot glue sticks lavbel and it says theyr no good where it with be in contact with water....how shit is that.... hot glue hould be water tight...Dammit, So I had to swap for thebucket without a level indicator and stick a peice of aluminium taoe on the inside at the water line for matey boy to know where to top up to. anyopne got any suggectuions....
Before any1 mentions bathroom silicone, its no good coz it rots in the nutrient tunrs to snot, this i discovered on my 1st bucket last year! I wonder if a bit of araldite would do it(epoxy resin) im really pissed off about those glue gun sticks.... ill get that new catalougue ordered I only got one a couple ofweeks ago but it must be the older one then?? what colour is the new one Dr??? the latest one I have is a yellowish orange colour.

Guvnor · 10-04-2005, 11:38 PM

Harry - Epoxy resin will do the job mate, or a few blokes on site use plumbers putty?, believe thats what its called.
Thought of using a float valve in a larger container/res-to constantly keep the water level,will require a water pump. Like what you'd set up in a recuirculating system, only with the one bucket. May seem like alot of hassel for the task?
Hope this helps harry

Using the bubbler line at the moment, only decided to use it to stop my airwands becoming engulfed by roots-which in turn stops the bubbles in my bubbler-abit counter productive. I didnt get mine from growell but its all got to be the same gear- I may try what harry said about attacking it with a needle.
But from what you fellas have been saying it looks like i'll be better off sticking to wands and stones, since some of the airpumps i use only have one outlet i may try coming off with a length of air-line the a tee into 2 stones. Using two or more stones in one bucket is really the only way I can see tackelling the root problem-But i'll never win any awards for my brain-power, so maybe someone can come up with something. But buying double outlet pumps for one bucket could be APITA.

Oh Yeah, everyones pictures are looking top class- hope ya dont mind me posting a few pic's up soon of my new run and system doc- Stuck sensi star cut in the bubbler a couple days back, roots should be out the net pots soon.

All the best Farmers

Guv'nor

BenitoCereno · 10-05-2005, 05:13 AM

Dr. D, is that dried out top bud some sort of budrot? I had a superdense top bud go like that on me too.

Dr. D · 10-05-2005, 12:12 PM

Benito hi man, u got t spot on mate..i thought id cut off the dry bud from the hanging lant last night...and good job i did too wen i cut open the main bud blamo!! fuckin black/grey mould diff to the white/grey stuf im familiar with now i kno how the water supply was cut off to the main buds it hadnt really spread allot but it was right inside the bud on the stem i chucked away bout an eigth and froze another few grams for bubble...i was a bit pissed off but with buds that tight wat can u do?

Mary, Mary · 10-06-2005, 07:38 AM

You have some gorgeous plants going there!

Sorry to hear about the mold. My last crop had some of it also. Didn't even see it until after harvest. I have since learned, as it appears you have, that if the bud starts dying on the live plant it's probably mold.

Since then, I've increase circulation and decreased humidity. I'm sure hoping one of those things will help. But then again, it could be I'm getting too greedy and letting the buds get too thick??

All the best,
Mary

truecannabliss · 10-07-2005, 01:13 AM

Hey there all, im having a few problems with temps in my grow at night and was thinking that one of those air pumps that sits in the DWC may warm the water enough to stop any problems with it getting too cold.....also gonna wrap something around the bucket for insulation.
Peace

BenitoCereno · 10-07-2005, 08:16 AM

But Rot, Damp Off and Stem Rot(when Cloning) the deadly trio for me. Yhay picture i posted above cost me like an ounce off a three ounce cola

That was in wet weight though...

10-04-2005, 10:10 PM	#101
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Ok Dr_D Quick question what size of pump would be good to run a bin that holds 18 gallons? Or should i go smaller size bin? I want to run 2 of them.. with 2 or 3 plants per bin.. Please let me know as i want to get this made tonight... Also pet store i can get airstones yes? Well a different selection than at wally world.. Also do you put the cuttig in a smaller net pot then put that into the final bigger net pot..? Ohh also would i thelp to put the airstone on a base in the bins to get it closer to the top iof the bin? Sorry for so mant questions..Thanx and ill be back later today.. Sack's First Outdoor Grow LQQK see.. All new updates Sack's Bubbledust Outdoor Grow Sack's Cappuccino OD Grow Sack's Limon OD Grow sack
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10-04-2005, 10:26 PM	#102
Dr. D Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for Shambhala.. Posts: 3,179	Hey sacko i use a 100 litre air pump on one bucket so u will need a good size pump(best with 2-3 outlets)...how long u thinkin of veggin for?? i think three plants woulld go ok in that size tub with a short veg time...i go two weeks max. but it cud get cramped with three plants if they get branchy. im sue u willl be able to get airstones from the pet store..and they are best at the bbottom of the tub/bucket, u put ur clone straight into the 6 inch pot(thats wot i use) uthen have the water level over ht ebottom of the pots so the roots get time to ome out into the water....good luck __________________ Roots.....its all in the roots!!! To fathom hell or soar angelic Just take a pinch of psychedelic Humphrey Osmond
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10-04-2005, 10:30 PM	#103
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Dr_D Thanx bro. I will go and buy me my pump and a lil more tubing airstones and im off my clones are almost ready to go in.. So kinda in a hurry dont want to lose these babies.. Ohh where to get the pump Home depot? peace.. Sack's First Outdoor Grow LQQK see.. All new updates Sack's Bubbledust Outdoor Grow Sack's Cappuccino OD Grow Sack's Limon OD Grow sack
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10-04-2005, 10:46 PM	#104
Harry Gypsna Dirty hippy Bastard Join Date: May 2004 Location: Outside BodyShop, with a Tin Whistle and a dog on a piece of string Posts: 8,157	chhers for the 20 quid enviros mate...gonna get one tomorrow.... thanks dude....ima get a truncheon next week too, brand new 55 quid, thazts a price i lkike! Bolan, I didnt say before, but those round airstones came from a growshop..... Well I changed the nutes out last night...and then i got a fecking leak from the level indicator.....Ive just read my hot glue sticks lavbel and it says theyr no good where it with be in contact with water....how shit is that.... hot glue hould be water tight...Dammit, So I had to swap for thebucket without a level indicator and stick a peice of aluminium taoe on the inside at the water line for matey boy to know where to top up to. anyopne got any suggectuions.... Before any1 mentions bathroom silicone, its no good coz it rots in the nutrient tunrs to snot, this i discovered on my 1st bucket last year! I wonder if a bit of araldite would do it(epoxy resin) im really pissed off about those glue gun sticks.... ill get that new catalougue ordered I only got one a couple ofweeks ago but it must be the older one then?? what colour is the new one Dr??? the latest one I have is a yellowish orange colour. __________________ Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, and none of these people are very funny.
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10-04-2005, 11:38 PM	#105
Guvnor A right Wroung'Un Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: UK Posts: 547	Harry - Epoxy resin will do the job mate, or a few blokes on site use plumbers putty?, believe thats what its called. Thought of using a float valve in a larger container/res-to constantly keep the water level,will require a water pump. Like what you'd set up in a recuirculating system, only with the one bucket. May seem like alot of hassel for the task? Hope this helps harry Using the bubbler line at the moment, only decided to use it to stop my airwands becoming engulfed by roots-which in turn stops the bubbles in my bubbler-abit counter productive. I didnt get mine from growell but its all got to be the same gear- I may try what harry said about attacking it with a needle. But from what you fellas have been saying it looks like i'll be better off sticking to wands and stones, since some of the airpumps i use only have one outlet i may try coming off with a length of air-line the a tee into 2 stones. Using two or more stones in one bucket is really the only way I can see tackelling the root problem-But i'll never win any awards for my brain-power, so maybe someone can come up with something. But buying double outlet pumps for one bucket could be APITA. Oh Yeah, everyones pictures are looking top class- hope ya dont mind me posting a few pic's up soon of my new run and system doc- Stuck sensi star cut in the bubbler a couple days back, roots should be out the net pots soon. All the best Farmers Guv'nor Last edited by Guvnor; 10-04-2005 at 11:50 PM..
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10-05-2005, 05:13 AM	#106
BenitoCereno Self-Hating Gnostic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: On the far left end of the couch, shaving my cat... Posts: 490	Dr. D, is that dried out top bud some sort of budrot? I had a superdense top bud go like that on me too. Last edited by BenitoCereno; 10-05-2005 at 05:15 AM..
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10-05-2005, 12:12 PM	#107
Dr. D Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Looking for Shambhala.. Posts: 3,179	Benito hi man, u got t spot on mate..i thought id cut off the dry bud from the hanging lant last night...and good job i did too wen i cut open the main bud blamo!! fuckin black/grey mould diff to the white/grey stuf im familiar with now i kno how the water supply was cut off to the main buds it hadnt really spread allot but it was right inside the bud on the stem i chucked away bout an eigth and froze another few grams for bubble...i was a bit pissed off but with buds that tight wat can u do? __________________ Roots.....its all in the roots!!! To fathom hell or soar angelic Just take a pinch of psychedelic Humphrey Osmond
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10-06-2005, 07:38 AM	#108
Mary, Mary Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 118	You have some gorgeous plants going there! Sorry to hear about the mold. My last crop had some of it also. Didn't even see it until after harvest. I have since learned, as it appears you have, that if the bud starts dying on the live plant it's probably mold. Since then, I've increase circulation and decreased humidity. I'm sure hoping one of those things will help. But then again, it could be I'm getting too greedy and letting the buds get too thick?? All the best, Mary __________________ 50 - 70 ppm = 1 CF = .1 EC and 5 ml = 5 cc = 1 teaspoon
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10-07-2005, 01:13 AM	#109
truecannabliss Selection is art Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In the grow Posts: 3,092	Hey there all, im having a few problems with temps in my grow at night and was thinking that one of those air pumps that sits in the DWC may warm the water enough to stop any problems with it getting too cold.....also gonna wrap something around the bucket for insulation. Peace
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10-07-2005, 08:16 AM	#110
BenitoCereno Self-Hating Gnostic Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: On the far left end of the couch, shaving my cat... Posts: 490	But Rot, Damp Off and Stem Rot(when Cloning) the deadly trio for me. Yhay picture i posted above cost me like an ounce off a three ounce cola That was in wet weight though... Last edited by BenitoCereno; 10-07-2005 at 08:18 AM..
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