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junit · 06-26-2005, 02:33 AM

Hey everyone......I hope your weekend is going well......not sure if this is the best place for the post but we will see ... . Well here i am podering a little bit as i tend to do often during the day.....I would like to hear (Hopefully you would be kind enough to offer) from some Former US citizens who moved to a different country....

It doesnt have to be just for Marijuana reasons..... I am just wondering what one has to go through...... what the experience is like....... Was it different than you expected... did they treat you differently because you WERE an American....(I know the world doesnt have the greatest opinion about us) I mean its one thing to visit a different country...... its another to live there full time.

Please share your experience.

06-26-2005, 02:51 AM

You do not have to renounce your US citizenship just to move to another country, in fact very few do unless it's a US citizenship your after.

You may need to be a citizen to own property or a business just for legal and tax reasons.

I have a few friends with daul citizenships and they use the one that is best for the situation.

You are treated differently EVERYWHERE because you are an American and most of the time not for the better. Go to Japan and try and beg a cab to pick you up, it's a joke. We would get people(japanese) to go out hail a cab, get in it and then we would run out and get in while they got out and told them where we were going. Sometimes they would still refuse to take us anywhere.

Look out here comes the LOUD American....hehehe

Tex

Oh yeh, I lived in Brazil for a bit and travelled non stop around the world for 5-6 years

06-26-2005, 03:05 AM

Wow, Texas Kid, I didn't know you were a world traveler! I too am interested in leaving the US for foreign shores. Can you have american citizenship AND citizenship in a european country?

06-26-2005, 03:29 AM

Alot of Americans carry dual citizenships because you can be a US citizen and also be a citizen in their parents home country of citizenship.

For example if someone was second generation "off the boat" so to say and their parents still retain their Swiss, German, Dutch, etc.. citizenship they may have a German and US passport on hand.

You don't get the same protections as a national would even if you go through the drill to get foriegn citizenship. Your an American, it seeps form your essence, it's damn hard to hide in the short term in another country. Even after living there for awhile you still stand out to the locals. They actuall called me "The American" or "Dallas" in a couple villages in Paranagua and Rio Grande De Sul in Brazil. Everyone knows "Dallas" the series because it still runs in reruns all over the world. Some still think it is current and still being filmed and ya tell them that that was the early 80's and it is still lost on them. Do you know J.R. Ewing the oil tycoon? all the time.

South America was always alot more fun for me than South East Asia, Asian languages are a total mystery to me. I can wing it pretty good with Latin languages so it lets you interact alot more and experience the local flavor alot more.

Marry a local girl and your in like Flynn.....hehe

Tex

bartender187 · 06-26-2005, 05:21 AM

I got Tri-Citizenship

... i proudly hold, U.S., Mexican, and Spanish citizenship.

junit · 06-26-2005, 07:24 AM

Wow thanks Kid.... I didnt know That about the Dual Citizenship......Naturally i would think it would be hard to hide Americanism..... yet after a few years some people catch on........Yet Antonio banderas still cant kick his accient.lol .... My Grandmother is from Germany...... My Grandfather met her there while in the airforce...... He brought her back to Georgia to meet his 9 brothers and sisters tought her every word of english....and you would never be able to tell....Uncle Hanz Says she speaks German with an American Accent now.

Got any Suggestions on a place too look at if i wanted to reside a GOOD portion of my time to. MJ friendly of course..... the Netherlands has so been done before.... Canada the obvious one. Just somewhere someone could live fairly comfortablely..... Although Tex.... untill recently... i wanted nothing more than to move down there to texas...... get a lil old ranch...and watch the wind blow by.

syko2 · 06-26-2005, 08:37 AM

I applied for my Citizenship for Canada last week

07-12-2005, 08:42 AM

most of my international travels have been due to my military service. Ive been to some of the most dangerous places on earth where if you smell like an americian ur dead. But i have been to some real cool places on R&R. I like the eastern block countries, I.E. Bulgaria, hungry etc. I was always treated with the up most respect. Nice lookin ladies, that love american men....ahhhh those were the days ;-)

Dutchgrown · 07-12-2005, 01:24 PM

Living abroad is interesting, fun, exciting, educational
(in soooo many ways), but in the end.....

Dorothy clicks her heels in shiny red glass slippers, and repeats:

There's no place like home,
There's no place like home!

dg

07-12-2005, 06:36 PM

Truer words never spoken, Dutch

No matter how much fun I was having, how much I was learning, or how many girls I was having,ooops, girls I was meeting, I would see the lights of Miami or the lights of LA and get overly exited to be back in the ol'USA....

there's no place like home, there's no place like home

It's one hell of a ride though and I would pass on any opprotunity to travel or experience another culture first hand.

Tex

06-26-2005, 02:33 AM	#1
junit The Lizard King Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 212	Former U.S Citizens Hey everyone......I hope your weekend is going well......not sure if this is the best place for the post but we will see ... . Well here i am podering a little bit as i tend to do often during the day.....I would like to hear (Hopefully you would be kind enough to offer) from some Former US citizens who moved to a different country.... It doesnt have to be just for Marijuana reasons..... I am just wondering what one has to go through...... what the experience is like....... Was it different than you expected... did they treat you differently because you WERE an American....(I know the world doesnt have the greatest opinion about us) I mean its one thing to visit a different country...... its another to live there full time. Please share your experience. __________________ I like you!.... When the World is mine... your Death shall be quick and Painless. The arbitrary criminalization of tens of millions of Americans who consume marijuana results in a large-scale lack of respect for the law and the entire criminal justice system.
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06-26-2005, 02:51 AM	#2
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	You do not have to renounce your US citizenship just to move to another country, in fact very few do unless it's a US citizenship your after. You may need to be a citizen to own property or a business just for legal and tax reasons. I have a few friends with daul citizenships and they use the one that is best for the situation. You are treated differently EVERYWHERE because you are an American and most of the time not for the better. Go to Japan and try and beg a cab to pick you up, it's a joke. We would get people(japanese) to go out hail a cab, get in it and then we would run out and get in while they got out and told them where we were going. Sometimes they would still refuse to take us anywhere. Look out here comes the LOUD American....hehehe Tex Oh yeh, I lived in Brazil for a bit and travelled non stop around the world for 5-6 years Last edited by Texas Kid; 06-26-2005 at 02:52 AM..
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06-26-2005, 03:05 AM	#3
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Wow, Texas Kid, I didn't know you were a world traveler! I too am interested in leaving the US for foreign shores. Can you have american citizenship AND citizenship in a european country?
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06-26-2005, 03:29 AM	#4
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Alot of Americans carry dual citizenships because you can be a US citizen and also be a citizen in their parents home country of citizenship. For example if someone was second generation "off the boat" so to say and their parents still retain their Swiss, German, Dutch, etc.. citizenship they may have a German and US passport on hand. You don't get the same protections as a national would even if you go through the drill to get foriegn citizenship. Your an American, it seeps form your essence, it's damn hard to hide in the short term in another country. Even after living there for awhile you still stand out to the locals. They actuall called me "The American" or "Dallas" in a couple villages in Paranagua and Rio Grande De Sul in Brazil. Everyone knows "Dallas" the series because it still runs in reruns all over the world. Some still think it is current and still being filmed and ya tell them that that was the early 80's and it is still lost on them. Do you know J.R. Ewing the oil tycoon? all the time. South America was always alot more fun for me than South East Asia, Asian languages are a total mystery to me. I can wing it pretty good with Latin languages so it lets you interact alot more and experience the local flavor alot more. Marry a local girl and your in like Flynn.....hehe Tex
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06-26-2005, 05:21 AM	#5
bartender187 Bakin in da Sun Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Planet Zeldar Posts: 2,949	I got Tri-Citizenship ... i proudly hold, U.S., Mexican, and Spanish citizenship. __________________ Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestous sea of liberty. - Thomas Jefferson
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06-26-2005, 07:24 AM	#6
junit The Lizard King Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 212	Wow thanks Kid.... I didnt know That about the Dual Citizenship......Naturally i would think it would be hard to hide Americanism..... yet after a few years some people catch on........Yet Antonio banderas still cant kick his accient.lol .... My Grandmother is from Germany...... My Grandfather met her there while in the airforce...... He brought her back to Georgia to meet his 9 brothers and sisters tought her every word of english....and you would never be able to tell....Uncle Hanz Says she speaks German with an American Accent now. Got any Suggestions on a place too look at if i wanted to reside a GOOD portion of my time to. MJ friendly of course..... the Netherlands has so been done before.... Canada the obvious one. Just somewhere someone could live fairly comfortablely..... Although Tex.... untill recently... i wanted nothing more than to move down there to texas...... get a lil old ranch...and watch the wind blow by. __________________ I like you!.... When the World is mine... your Death shall be quick and Painless. The arbitrary criminalization of tens of millions of Americans who consume marijuana results in a large-scale lack of respect for the law and the entire criminal justice system.
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06-26-2005, 08:37 AM	#7
syko2 ~Chronic Super Hero~ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In My Grow Room~! Posts: 210	I applied for my Citizenship for Canada last week __________________ "I Support MMJ Caregivers!!!" TokeCity
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07-12-2005, 08:42 AM	#8
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	most of my international travels have been due to my military service. Ive been to some of the most dangerous places on earth where if you smell like an americian ur dead. But i have been to some real cool places on R&R. I like the eastern block countries, I.E. Bulgaria, hungry etc. I was always treated with the up most respect. Nice lookin ladies, that love american men....ahhhh those were the days ;-)
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07-12-2005, 01:24 PM	#9
Dutchgrown ---- Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 0	Living abroad is interesting, fun, exciting, educational (in soooo many ways), but in the end..... Dorothy clicks her heels in shiny red glass slippers, and repeats: There's no place like home, There's no place like home! dg
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07-12-2005, 06:36 PM	#10
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	Truer words never spoken, Dutch No matter how much fun I was having, how much I was learning, or how many girls I was having,ooops, girls I was meeting, I would see the lights of Miami or the lights of LA and get overly exited to be back in the ol'USA.... there's no place like home, there's no place like home It's one hell of a ride though and I would pass on any opprotunity to travel or experience another culture first hand. Tex
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