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Old 08-02-2009, 07:53 AM #11
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hps`urile pot fi folosite si in veg? Dar daca le tin pe 12/12 din seed ? (scz ca am postat aici dar n`are rost sa fac inca un topic pt 2 intrebari)
sigur ca le poti folosi in veg... 12/12 din seed as incerca doar pe plantele 100% sativa, asta-i fotoperioada permanenta de la Ecuator, indica insa incep sa infloresca destul de repede, isi limiteaza cresterea vegetativa la minimum si o sa sfarsesti cu niste bonsai
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Old 08-16-2009, 03:16 PM #12
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am gasit un site , de pe care se poate comanda on line , cu plata ramburs .
sunt becuri economice BEC ECONOMIC SPIRALAT 55W si 45W LUMINA NATURALA , Producator: Odeer Pret: 33 RON , respectiv 31 RON , TEMPERATURA DE CULOARE: 4.200 K (gr.Kelvin)

cel de 55 w are 2300 lumeni , respectiv cel de 45 w are 2600 lumeni .. cel putin asa scrie pe site )

exista si becuri Metal Halide , am vazut doar de 250W , dar sincer nu m am prea uitat

lustre-online ro

.. a da si am gasit si un grafic .. care arata ce spectru luminos este absorbit mai bine de frunze si fiecare bec ce culoare are in gr. kelv., poate e de ajutor


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Old 08-18-2009, 10:40 PM #13
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Dati o geana si pe ebecuri.ro. Am vazut niste chestii interesante pe acolo, inclusiv hps-uri 'agro' !
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daca pui un mh pe un ballast de hps care nu este switchable, se poate chiar daca se aprinde sa ii scurtezi drastic durata de viata, sa ii scada intensitatea foarte repede si chiar sa se supraincalzeasca, in timp existand si risc de explozie daca invelisul capsulei cedeaza.

daca nu stii ce faci, daca nu scrie pe el ca ar fi si pentru mh sau un expert nu iti spune ca este bun nu as recomanda asemenea improvizatii.
daca vrei sa folosesti ballast de hps neaparat poti cauta bec CMH, care merge pe ballast de HPS (neaparat cu bobina, nu electronic). becul e mai scump, dar ai avantajul ca folosesti acelasi ballast si are spectru extins.
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:31 PM #15
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am gasit un site , de pe care se poate comanda on line , cu plata ramburs .
sunt becuri economice BEC ECONOMIC SPIRALAT 55W si 45W LUMINA NATURALA , Producator: Odeer Pret: 33 RON , respectiv 31 RON , TEMPERATURA DE CULOARE: 4.200 K (gr.Kelvin)

cel de 55 w are 2300 lumeni , respectiv cel de 45 w are 2600 lumeni .. cel putin asa scrie pe site )

exista si becuri Metal Halide , am vazut doar de 250W , dar sincer nu m am prea uitat

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Conform graficului postat de tine (mersi mult, btw, am aflat o chestie esentiala!) numai MH-ul DAYLIGHT (ala de 5500 K) este mai bun decat HPS-ul!

MH-ul normal (de 4000 K) este echivalent cu neoanele Cool White (4200 K) la gradul de absorbtie la nivel de clorofila.

Ai vaz ca pe grafic iti marcheaza cu rosu ca alea doua is practic cele mai bune surse de lumina pt indoor.
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:51 PM #16
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E chiar FOARTE TARE graficul ala! Practic daca ai specificatiile becului, in functie de temperatura culorii iti dai seama cat de bun e becul pt grow.

De ex, ma uitam pe ebecuri la HPI-urile alea (care cica sunt tot MH-uri), dar care la 4500K sunt mai proaste decat neoanele.

Practic becul ideal ar trebui sa aiba 5650 - 5700 K. Sunt curios cat au alea "agro".

Threadul asta ar puea fi sticky. Explo?
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:14 AM #17
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Fiti antene.. daca va uitati la becuri economice (ESL) pe lustre-online sunt acolo becuri de 6500 K, care sunt la fel de bune, daca nu chiar un pic mai bune decat MH Daylight.

https://www.lustre-online.ro/produs.php?prod=2678
asta "cool white" e doar de 7W din pacate.

si alea cu lumina calda au spectru f bun la 2700K practic identic cu HPS-ul.
https://www.lustre-online.ro/produs.php?prod=2913
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Old 08-20-2009, 12:37 AM #18
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Am gasit un alt grafic f tare, care compara temperatura de culoare a soarelui in diferite faze ale zilei cu temperaturile de culoare ale diferitelor becuri!



Haha, observati lumanarea din josul graficului , tehnologia de iluminare in 3000BC Deci lumina lumanarii are 2000 K, comparabil cu 2200 K ai HPS-ului. Aflam lucruri noi . Deci daca aveti plante in floare la HPS si vi se ia curentul, plantele pot sa creasca si la lumina lumanarii .. Binenteles, mai greu este sa obtii 400w de lumina numai cu lumanari
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:05 AM #19
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Eu nu inteleg o chestie. M-am uitat la HPS-urile alea Agro de pe ebecuri.ro si zice ca au 2000 K. Conform graficului postat de arigog la 2000K activitatea in clorofila e ff redusa..

In fine, ar mai fi o chestie de mentionat la graficul ala (al lui arigog) pentru a putea lua decizia corecta legat de becuri. Graficul nu tine cont de luminozitate (lumeni). Daca luam in considerare luminozitatea relatata la putere (cam 80 lumeni/watt la hps si mh comparativ cu 12 lumeni/watt la neoane), este clar ca activitatea clorofilei la HPS si la MH este de cateva ori mai ridicata decat la neoane cu aceleasi temperaturi de culoare.

Ma gandeam eu, de ce sa-mi iau MH sau HPS daca exista neoane cu aceleasi temperaturi de culoare. Acum am inteles . Am descoperit ata la mamaliga!
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Old 08-20-2009, 01:22 AM #20
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sznake, dar fumezi prea mult.

eu sunt praf in acest moment, si chestia aia e evidenta.
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