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hoosierdaddy · 07-04-2009, 03:43 PM

I got 5 Ministry of Cannabis "Little Angel" feminized autoflower.
I cast only one of these seeds, and placed it in a ~3gal pot when it had it's first 5 finger set of leaves. I placed the pot outside in my secret garden.
It seemed a little slow at first, but soon took on a very vigorous stretch period.
I had to support her stalk a bit, due to the plant overgrowing itself.

She's a nicely structured plant.
But here's the thing...
It has been outside since May 31, and there is still no signs of sex. She has just formed her 11th node, and the node distance is getting much smaller, but no flowers.
I measured her at 32" tall. The stalk where my inspector is gripping is about 1/2dia at that point. (bit larger there than at the base)
Do I have a mutant auto...or maybe a nonauto? Rare pheno with no auto trait? I am clueless about autos and perhaps an auto aficionado will chime in?

I didn't crop out the 500gal tank to give some size reference.

dontae1000 · 07-04-2009, 07:35 PM

i saw those seeds online, figured they were lowryder copy cats under a differant name or unstable b.s. autos, i think u got the latter............theres alot of b.s. autos out there, most arent dwarfs but are those that start to auto earlier then traditional 12/12 strains, sometimes as early as 6 weeks... stick with lowlife and jointdocters if u want a sure thing under 10 weeks-

krazycure · 07-04-2009, 08:41 PM

That massive stalk looks alot like another thread on here....perhaps just a plain rudy?

hoosierdaddy · 07-06-2009, 11:11 AM

I dunno, MOC claims that this plant can get up to 35cm, which it has already grown to that height. It does seem to have stopped stretching, but still no preflowers yet.
The breeders claim is that it will start to flower after about 2 1/2 weeks from germination.
Mine have been up and healthy since May 27, and outdoors since the 31st.
Now, I am not stuck with a bad grow, as this was just an experiment into autos for me. I am not depending on this plant at all, just wanted to try one. And although it does look like it may well be a nice plant, with a very large hollow stalk, it isn't what I was looking for in a autoflower strain. I think maybe I should have looked into a dwarf strain of AF.
And I also understand that it may just be the phonetic expression of that particular plant, and it didn't take on the rud side of things.

The only thing that has me a bit upset is the size description. My outdoor grows must be hidden, so I lst everything in the field and keep most everything under 24" tall.
Had I known about the explosive growth of this plant, I would have been tying her down early on.

I have been very impressed with the quality of product that MOC has, and I would hope that I just have a strange pheno, instead of them peddling unstable rud mix strains. Surely they have this thing bred down to full on auto, and not just selling F1's with a fractional auto rate.

Krull · 07-06-2009, 12:29 PM

Some MOC stuff is very good but we had a lot of BAD reports about this "AF" strain on the italian forum... you're warned...

Peace

=K

hoosierdaddy · 07-06-2009, 01:00 PM

Thanks for the heads up...but exactly what is the warning?

Krull · 07-06-2009, 01:33 PM

No autoflower... if you don't force them 12/12 they keep vegging. Someone in our forum has Little A. vegging from 3-4 months outdoor... So i think this strain is bs, not your fault/luck.

Cya

=K

Gene-weaver · 07-06-2009, 01:51 PM

Germ the other beans and see if they do the same if so its a bs af

lowrdr · 07-06-2009, 02:47 PM

i had some of these. they wont flower automatically, i pulled mine after about 3 months of vegging. ive tried to warn alot of people about them as they are complete garbage

hoosierdaddy · 08-05-2009, 03:18 AM

Just an update....

THis plant got about twice the size of what the pics show. I had to supercrop the main stalk twice to keep it stealth in the garden.

Sumbitch is a male. Glad I was on top of it too, cause it is in with some funk already flowering. Needless to say that after finally deciding I would try an autoflower, and buying femminized autos and getting no auto and no fem...well, it's needless to say.

Anywho, MOC has sent me a replacement pack for the "defective" as they put it, seeds.
I have a hard time buying "defective" when a male shows up in a supposed femmed pack. That is more a "packed by a bonehead" move to me. (shrug)
They did send me more seeds, which is righteous. And I have had nothing but good luck with them so far, so I am not bad mouthing anything but this fucked up pack of seeds that almost cost me my secret garden.

Dammit, I want to do an auto! lol...

07-04-2009, 03:43 PM	#1
hoosierdaddy Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: On a hill in a holler Posts: 4,900	MOC Little Angel I got 5 Ministry of Cannabis "Little Angel" feminized autoflower. I cast only one of these seeds, and placed it in a ~3gal pot when it had it's first 5 finger set of leaves. I placed the pot outside in my secret garden. It seemed a little slow at first, but soon took on a very vigorous stretch period. I had to support her stalk a bit, due to the plant overgrowing itself. She's a nicely structured plant. But here's the thing... It has been outside since May 31, and there is still no signs of sex. She has just formed her 11th node, and the node distance is getting much smaller, but no flowers. I measured her at 32" tall. The stalk where my inspector is gripping is about 1/2dia at that point. (bit larger there than at the base) Do I have a mutant auto...or maybe a nonauto? Rare pheno with no auto trait? I am clueless about autos and perhaps an auto aficionado will chime in? I didn't crop out the 500gal tank to give some size reference.
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07-04-2009, 07:35 PM	#2
dontae1000 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 226	i saw those seeds online, figured they were lowryder copy cats under a differant name or unstable b.s. autos, i think u got the latter............theres alot of b.s. autos out there, most arent dwarfs but are those that start to auto earlier then traditional 12/12 strains, sometimes as early as 6 weeks... stick with lowlife and jointdocters if u want a sure thing under 10 weeks-
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07-04-2009, 08:41 PM	#3
krazycure 'dro Acolyte Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hydrotown Posts: 269	That massive stalk looks alot like another thread on here....perhaps just a plain rudy? __________________ SNL DWC LR DWC JEM Soil LR#2 DWC Something to Jam
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07-06-2009, 11:11 AM	#4
hoosierdaddy Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: On a hill in a holler Posts: 4,900	I dunno, MOC claims that this plant can get up to 35cm, which it has already grown to that height. It does seem to have stopped stretching, but still no preflowers yet. The breeders claim is that it will start to flower after about 2 1/2 weeks from germination. Mine have been up and healthy since May 27, and outdoors since the 31st. Now, I am not stuck with a bad grow, as this was just an experiment into autos for me. I am not depending on this plant at all, just wanted to try one. And although it does look like it may well be a nice plant, with a very large hollow stalk, it isn't what I was looking for in a autoflower strain. I think maybe I should have looked into a dwarf strain of AF. And I also understand that it may just be the phonetic expression of that particular plant, and it didn't take on the rud side of things. The only thing that has me a bit upset is the size description. My outdoor grows must be hidden, so I lst everything in the field and keep most everything under 24" tall. Had I known about the explosive growth of this plant, I would have been tying her down early on. I have been very impressed with the quality of product that MOC has, and I would hope that I just have a strange pheno, instead of them peddling unstable rud mix strains. Surely they have this thing bred down to full on auto, and not just selling F1's with a fractional auto rate.
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07-06-2009, 12:29 PM	#5
Krull Soul Feeder Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Underground Posts: 2,359	Some MOC stuff is very good but we had a lot of BAD reports about this "AF" strain on the italian forum... you're warned... Peace =K
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07-06-2009, 01:00 PM	#6
hoosierdaddy Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: On a hill in a holler Posts: 4,900	Thanks for the heads up...but exactly what is the warning?
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07-06-2009, 01:33 PM	#7
Krull Soul Feeder Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Underground Posts: 2,359	No autoflower... if you don't force them 12/12 they keep vegging. Someone in our forum has Little A. vegging from 3-4 months outdoor... So i think this strain is bs, not your fault/luck. Cya =K
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07-06-2009, 01:51 PM	#8
Gene-weaver Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 465	Germ the other beans and see if they do the same if so its a bs af
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07-06-2009, 02:47 PM	#9
lowrdr Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: way up above everest Posts: 667	i had some of these. they wont flower automatically, i pulled mine after about 3 months of vegging. ive tried to warn alot of people about them as they are complete garbage
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08-05-2009, 03:18 AM	#10
hoosierdaddy Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: On a hill in a holler Posts: 4,900	Just an update.... THis plant got about twice the size of what the pics show. I had to supercrop the main stalk twice to keep it stealth in the garden. Sumbitch is a male. Glad I was on top of it too, cause it is in with some funk already flowering. Needless to say that after finally deciding I would try an autoflower, and buying femminized autos and getting no auto and no fem...well, it's needless to say. Anywho, MOC has sent me a replacement pack for the "defective" as they put it, seeds. I have a hard time buying "defective" when a male shows up in a supposed femmed pack. That is more a "packed by a bonehead" move to me. (shrug) They did send me more seeds, which is righteous. And I have had nothing but good luck with them so far, so I am not bad mouthing anything but this fucked up pack of seeds that almost cost me my secret garden. Dammit, I want to do an auto! lol...
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