[ChaosCatalunya]

I have been a fan of 3d growing since year dot. Ed R & Mel F's book iirc started me off thinking, I am sure it was them that showed the 'stadium' ... a normal 2d table, but with the tallest plants at the edge. Now I am playing around with putting taller [stretchier] strains on the sides and/or starting these clones 10 days before the 'middle table clones'.... a Wall of Green.....best not use an acronym for that one... I first did this years ago, running a row or two of Swazi outside a middle of SuperSkunk, it worked really well.

Chatting to my Guru mate, he runs 'valleys' IIRC just 3 NFT systems, with the outside 2 tables 20/30cm higher than the middle one and a light mover up and down the middle, this fills out the plants really well and he is happy with the improvement over the same at the same level.

I am not really indoors at the moment, but may well go back there soon, hopefully with a proper setup and a homemade 3d NFT system. My second ever grow featured a homemade NFT table/system and I have done them DIY ever since, what I really want to do is convert this into a proper 3d system, either a valley first, or a full on colliseum.

The thing that I always look at and do not like with the commercial systems is accessibility, or rather, the lack of... so I was thinking along the lines of welding up strong steel frames, setting up 4 freestanding, but wheeled quarters that move in and out of place.. with remote reservoirs. As I like to play about and try different things, I would probably start with several experiments with the 'table' ... large uPVC drainage ducts vs Fibreglass resin covered wood vs pot holders for drain to waste Coco spring to mind ... and... with any luck some good ideas pinched from you lot....

All I ever learned about homebrewed NFT & Hydro is in Molyneux's "A Practical Guide to NFT" ... just fantastic and also relevant to any Hydro system, not just NFT, the ideas and sections on Materials are pure Gold IMO.

Good luck all, thanks to HGOz, Gypsy & all involved in getting this section up, I am really looking forward to learning a hell of a lot here from you IC people, not to mention stealing all your best ideas... Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery after all....

Originally Posted by oregon bob

TTG, k... had a problem, or two... who is NF? Couldn't find on search. Krusty's posts seem old & couldn't find pics, so not sure on his set-up, though didn't go all the way through... seemed heavily edited...? Here's a clip from teeg420: "Yea hopefully more people will get turned on to growing vert. Guys like heath robinson, 00420, green bastard, prawn connerey, green light, sunny dog, northern farmer, and bongholio have proven that you yield more with vert. It just amazes me the yields these guys are getting." Of all the names listed, 00420 is the only member I could find through search. Other names popped up on word search, but just by reference w/in thread. This seems quite odd to me?!? Why are all the verti growers removed?!? What's up w this...?

Because a majority of those people are on other forums, I love ICMAG but for longest time they didnt have a vert section. 00420, sunny dog and northern farmer are all members. There is plenty others as well in the search function go to advanced and type vertical with the title only it should help narrow down your results.

[oregon bob]

Thank you brother! kinda fig that out after my short-bus moment... thank you!

Disregard my other post as hit you up again when discovered you were o/l. Best brah! ;-)

[dontae1000]

im not sure i believe the hype about vertical circular grows, im on the vertical stadium as being the best use of space, best use of light yes i agree its vertical circular but not space,,with the circular its only going to be one plant in front of the bulb ,..... the square foot standard of measureing all this increase sqaure foot of light with the cirucular setups is a little misleading , the light efficiency isnt , theres almost complete shade just behind any plant next to the screen on a vertical ciruclar grow, that means one plant per few feet around the light, in the end not much differant to other methods, i mean with substantial light, more tops would yeild more to me as opposed to this method, i think the integration of both via vertical stadium is the best- when ever people quote someone pulling alot of pounds of a few 1000 bulbs their always talking about monster plants and are well out of the quick veg fast flower timeline most people base yeilds on anyways-

nope with a circular vert you end up getting more surface area/ grow area. compared to the stadium.

[turbolaser4528]

vertical growing is chill, definitely makes sense as far as efficiency. I would like to see a 3x3 grow or something similar done with vertical lighting.

but I agree that plants have to be grown completely different, vertical scrog anyone?!

[VerdantGreen]

interesting!

you mention high yields, what kind of gram/watt are you getting?

thanks

V.

[oregon bob]

I found Heath's stuff... a m a z i n g... who is this guy?!? Talk about constantly pushing your limits... wow.

Thanks Teeg- got a few more days til my pm's activate (think i need 7 days registered, not there). will pm a few questions soon. best to all!

[FreezerBoy]

GREAT illustrations! You're my new hero. Rep points for you. Let's see that garden comparison chart again ...

Originally Posted by Hundred Gram Oz

Damn if that don't say it all. I'll STFU now.

thank you took the words right out of my mouth.