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geoluv · 06-17-2009, 05:41 AM

my parents just bought a 120 acre farm in upstate new york an hour west of Albany.

they want it to breed german shepherds and retire, but they told me i can grow whatever i want on it. my heads already spinning as to what i should grow and the equipment i would need. i live in nyc at the moment, so a crop that doesn't require huge amounts of daily care is best, basically something i can just go check on every second or third week.

i was thinking apples, grapes, or strawberries. preferably strawberries.

what is the best way to water an entire field of plants? there is a stream that runs diagonally through the middle of the entire property, also a lake 1/4 of a mile north. the property also has an artesian well and 5 natural springs.

id really like something i can do mostly by myself, the first year i wont have much to pay people for help. i'm not going to get crazy, maybe just a few high tunnels to start. i heard with most crops at that latitude you have to either use a high tunnel or lay down plastic.

my parents already purchased a 25 thousand dollar kabota, and it was used. slammin' deal though, only had 50 hours as a snowplow.

the former farmer used it as a dairy farm but he also said he made 100,000 dollars a year under the table selling the hay that grew in the open fields to people in long island with smaller farms. as you can guess i have dollar signs in my eyes, but i'm a novice. help me choose an easy crop.

i did some research and have decided that organic heirloom veggies are my best bet, but its too late in the season.

you should see the names of the different strains of veggies and fruits you can get for commercial growing. the melons have very weed-sounding strain names like "early sweet" and "sugar baby".

NoSaint · 06-17-2009, 06:14 AM

Ask the former farmer for his hay connection and do that. A 100,000 a year for hay is quite a haul in my opinion for overgrown grass...

Can I bowhunt your land?....lol

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Originally Posted by geoluv

my parents just bought a 120 acre farm in upstate new york an hour west of Albany.

they want it to breed german shepherds and retire, but they told me i can grow whatever i want on it. my heads already spinning as to what i should grow and the equipment i would need. i live in nyc at the moment, so a crop that doesn't require huge amounts of daily care is best, basically something i can just go check on every second or third week.

i was thinking apples, grapes, or strawberries. preferably strawberries.

what is the best way to water an entire field of plants? there is a stream that runs diagonally through the middle of the entire property, also a lake 1/4 of a mile north. the property also has an artesian well and 5 natural springs.

id really like something i can do mostly by myself, the first year i wont have much to pay people for help. i'm not going to get crazy, maybe just a few high tunnels to start. i heard with most crops at that latitude you have to either use a high tunnel or lay down plastic.

my parents already purchased a 25 thousand dollar kabota, and it was used. slammin' deal though, only had 50 hours as a snowplow.

the former farmer used it as a dairy farm but he also said he made 100,000 dollars a year under the table selling the hay that grew in the open fields to people in long island with smaller farms. as you can guess i have dollar signs in my eyes, but i'm a novice. help me choose an easy crop.

i did some research and have decided that organic heirloom veggies are my best bet, but its too late in the season.

you should see the names of the different strains of veggies and fruits you can get for commercial growing. the melons have very weed-sounding strain names like "early sweet" and "sugar baby".

hempluvr · 06-17-2009, 06:26 AM

Among your berries and veggies you should throw in a couple low profile cannabis plants =)

BurmeseDragon · 06-17-2009, 06:41 AM

Yep, then those are what bring allegations of tax fraud. I didn't know hay could bring in that sort of money. Probably so many co-ops, things slip the books.

geoluv · 06-17-2009, 07:20 AM

i told my parents to get the hay client list as soon as i heard that, STAT!! who knows the farmer could have just been blowing smoke but long island probably has the highest hay prices in the country so im not putting it down. maybe he got 100,000 on his best year. there are farmers that want 5 year contracts to work our land just to bail hay too, so im guessing it makes money. something is weird about this hay thing, haha. the dude is dying of lung cancer so if the irs wants to go after him, go for it. hehe.

btw, my mums has worked for big 4 accounting firms since they were the big 6 or whatever, so we keep everything legal as hell, which is why there will be no weed planting hempluvr, sorry. even the kabota was purchased tax free for the dog buisness. if anyone wants a 100% legitimatly german german shepherd tell me. we have a brand new litter.

lordbudly · 06-17-2009, 09:53 AM

Id split it up 50/50 corn/hay, sell the corn to ethanol plants if ya can or even to farmers as livestock feed, along with the hay, grow a couple weed plants in there, if anyone sees em, it must of been those rascally kids again! *shakes fist in the air like an old guy*

StinkingRoger · 06-17-2009, 02:31 PM

Sitting on Arkansas Grass. Make Hay while the sun shines.Night time is for Vaping.

NoSaint · 06-17-2009, 03:58 PM

I'm thinking that farmer was bullshitting. Hay's usually for feeding horses and cattle right? How much cattle is in NYC?
Not much landscaping use for it their... Seems weird to me

Prof Sublime · 06-17-2009, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NoSaint

I'm thinking that farmer was bullshitting. Hay's usually for feeding horses and cattle right? How much cattle is in NYC?
Not much landscaping use for it their... Seems weird to me

I think youd be surpised how many horses are in NYC.......

reddy1 · 06-17-2009, 07:03 PM

sounds like you'll be living the dream. is this going to be a full time endeavor. how much can you commit? crazy ideas i've have because i personally wouldn't want to grow corn, hay or soy beans.....

see if the saffron crocus is winter hardy enough for your zone. very expensive hand harvested crop.
hybrid poplar tree farm. fastest growing tree. they grow 10 feet first 2 years from a cutting. you can sell a tree for $10 wholesale. also can be used for bio-fuel.
a bulb farm. buy bulbs in bulk from holland and make your money back in 3 years. charge people to look at it. lol.
grow petunias in a greenhouse and make hanging baskets that cost you less than $1 and sell for $15-20.

long term...
christmas tree farm. 5 years and $50 a tree.
potted dwarf japanese maples are expensive, hundreds of dollars.
plant heirloom apple trees. NY is #3 for apples produced. lots of commercial variety's do well there.
wine is a growing industry.

see what the local "foody" restaurants are looking for as to local produce they will buy from you. if you want to do the produce thing,, check out the chefs garden website, they are the premier specialty produce company in the US, grown out of Ohio. https://www.chefs-garden.com/

06-17-2009, 05:41 AM	#1
geoluv New Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10	120 acres in upstate ny, tell me what to grow. my parents just bought a 120 acre farm in upstate new york an hour west of Albany. they want it to breed german shepherds and retire, but they told me i can grow whatever i want on it. my heads already spinning as to what i should grow and the equipment i would need. i live in nyc at the moment, so a crop that doesn't require huge amounts of daily care is best, basically something i can just go check on every second or third week. i was thinking apples, grapes, or strawberries. preferably strawberries. what is the best way to water an entire field of plants? there is a stream that runs diagonally through the middle of the entire property, also a lake 1/4 of a mile north. the property also has an artesian well and 5 natural springs. id really like something i can do mostly by myself, the first year i wont have much to pay people for help. i'm not going to get crazy, maybe just a few high tunnels to start. i heard with most crops at that latitude you have to either use a high tunnel or lay down plastic. my parents already purchased a 25 thousand dollar kabota, and it was used. slammin' deal though, only had 50 hours as a snowplow. the former farmer used it as a dairy farm but he also said he made 100,000 dollars a year under the table selling the hay that grew in the open fields to people in long island with smaller farms. as you can guess i have dollar signs in my eyes, but i'm a novice. help me choose an easy crop. i did some research and have decided that organic heirloom veggies are my best bet, but its too late in the season. you should see the names of the different strains of veggies and fruits you can get for commercial growing. the melons have very weed-sounding strain names like "early sweet" and "sugar baby".
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06-17-2009, 02:31 PM	#7
StinkingRoger Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 409	Gather ye rosebuds while ye may. Sitting on Arkansas Grass. Make Hay while the sun shines.Night time is for Vaping.
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06-17-2009, 03:58 PM	#8
NoSaint I bear a cross, but I'm not sure that god loves me Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In hell trapped by a women Posts: 340	I'm thinking that farmer was bullshitting. Hay's usually for feeding horses and cattle right? How much cattle is in NYC? Not much landscaping use for it their... Seems weird to me __________________ *Still loving the fat dixie chick.*
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06-17-2009, 06:26 AM	#3
hempluvr plant pimp Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: In Ya BiTCh...On ThE WeST CoAsT Posts: 2,079	Among your berries and veggies you should throw in a couple low profile cannabis plants =) __________________
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06-17-2009, 06:41 AM	#4
BurmeseDragon Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 947	Yep, then those are what bring allegations of tax fraud. I didn't know hay could bring in that sort of money. Probably so many co-ops, things slip the books.
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06-17-2009, 07:20 AM	#5
geoluv New Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10	i told my parents to get the hay client list as soon as i heard that, STAT!! who knows the farmer could have just been blowing smoke but long island probably has the highest hay prices in the country so im not putting it down. maybe he got 100,000 on his best year. there are farmers that want 5 year contracts to work our land just to bail hay too, so im guessing it makes money. something is weird about this hay thing, haha. the dude is dying of lung cancer so if the irs wants to go after him, go for it. hehe. btw, my mums has worked for big 4 accounting firms since they were the big 6 or whatever, so we keep everything legal as hell, which is why there will be no weed planting hempluvr, sorry. even the kabota was purchased tax free for the dog buisness. if anyone wants a 100% legitimatly german german shepherd tell me. we have a brand new litter.
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06-17-2009, 07:03 PM	#10
reddy1 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 746	sounds like you'll be living the dream. is this going to be a full time endeavor. how much can you commit? crazy ideas i've have because i personally wouldn't want to grow corn, hay or soy beans..... see if the saffron crocus is winter hardy enough for your zone. very expensive hand harvested crop. hybrid poplar tree farm. fastest growing tree. they grow 10 feet first 2 years from a cutting. you can sell a tree for $10 wholesale. also can be used for bio-fuel. a bulb farm. buy bulbs in bulk from holland and make your money back in 3 years. charge people to look at it. lol. grow petunias in a greenhouse and make hanging baskets that cost you less than $1 and sell for $15-20. long term... christmas tree farm. 5 years and $50 a tree. potted dwarf japanese maples are expensive, hundreds of dollars. plant heirloom apple trees. NY is #3 for apples produced. lots of commercial variety's do well there. wine is a growing industry. see what the local "foody" restaurants are looking for as to local produce they will buy from you. if you want to do the produce thing,, check out the chefs garden website, they are the premier specialty produce company in the US, grown out of Ohio. https://www.chefs-garden.com/
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