[D Rock]

So I started a small grow again and went with a small hydro setup in a wardrobe closet. Im using general hydroponics nutes. Im growing one plant out right now from seed and started to notice some tip burning. I have been very careful with my nutes and PH, water temps and all that. So I was thinking of switching to AFN's PH-PPM Perfect formula that they have been advertising in the back of high times and was wondering if anyone can shed some light on what AFN products to use. I went to their website and couldnt find any info except this.
www.advancednutrients.com/ph-ppmperfect its a little video telling you about it, but like I said I cant figure out which nutes to get to make up this magical formula. If anyone can help out it would be greatly appreciated.

I was talking to Thundurkle about this the other day in the Micro forum. He saw and advert in a Medical magazine claiming the same thing. I do grow with AN nutes, the Sensi AB and Big Bud and haven't had any pH problems. I checked all the AN website. Thier nute lineup hasn't changed in a long time.

[D Rock]

Well after looking again I see there is a picture and it says,"New Breakthrough Formula"
and below that it has a picture of different AN products. They are Sensi bloom part A & B, Grow-Micro-Bloom, It says 5in1 then there are very small pics of Amino Acids, H-2, F-1, & Wet Betty.

So are all of these products what make up the New Breakthrough Formula?

It states several times that you dont have to use PH up or down and you dont have a need for PH & PPM meters. Is this true? I would gladly fork out the extra dough if I never have to check PH again, Damn what a pain the arse.

yes it's true. when the ph raises or lowers too much, the formula releases ph up or down to correct it. the up and down is coated with chemical that dissoves at certain ph.
hope that makes sense to you.

[micropro]

Do these chemicals effect the pH of the media, or just nutrient water?

[Nugz]

So it seems that, besides their new ph-ppm perfect technology, they also came out with some new products, Bud Candy, Bud Ignitor, Rhino Skin and Bud Factor X, and also added amino acids, humic/fulvic and surfactant (wet betty) to their Sensi Bloom and Grow, Micro, Bloom nutrients.

They came out with some nutrient bundles. Gotta see what the price will be like.

https://www.advancednutrients.com/Big...ringSystem.pdf

I'm wondering about their Connoiseur line, why it isn't part of this new ph-ppm perfect system.

[D Rock]

Its all very confusing to me, I am going to one of the Hydro shops around and Im going to find out more, when I get more money that is.

[Philosophelon]

Originally Posted by D Rock

Its all very confusing to me, I am going to one of the Hydro shops around and Im going to find out more, when I get more money that is.

Just my , but those are the last people I would ask. They have a very strong financial incentive to convince you that AN's newest (and very expensive) nutrients kick-ass, and may be less than honest with you about them.

[Advanced]

The ppm-pH perfect system is the pH regulating components that will be added to the base nutrients (Sensigrow and bloom, Grow-Micro-Bloom and Connoisseur).

Added to the new formulation of the base nutrients will be amino acids, humic and fulvic acid and surfactants.

The new nutrient/supplement bundles are intended to be used with the base nutrients. The first bundle contains the basic supplements, the second bundle is to be used if you are using the first bundle, the third bundle is to be used with the first and second and the fourth bundle is to be used with 1,2 and 3.

The bundles are 3 or 4 products in one box and you essentially get one of the products for free when you buy them together.

The new products and the ppm/pH perfect base nutrients were expected to released already but although some of the new products are already available, I don't expect to see the ppm/pH perfect base nutrients on the shelves for another month or so.

[cultiv8]

Originally Posted by Philosophelon

Just my , but those are the last people I would ask. They have a very strong financial incentive to convince you that AN's newest (and very expensive) nutrients kick-ass, and may be less than honest with you about them.

Actually the prices went down a good bit from what I've been hearing. I don't remember the exact prices off-hand, but if you search for "pH-PPM Perfect" or the "Bigger Yields Flowering System" you should be able to find some talk about the prices.

I downloaded a pdf of the feeding chart from somewhere, I'll try to attach it for you.

Last I'd heard this was coming out "any day now" but they keep finding new improvements to add so I'm not sure when it will hit shelves. I've told the guy at my shop to hold a Hobbyist, Expert and Professional level set for me whenever they come in. And if the pH-PPM thing works like they say I'll probably get the Grandmaster level package before I end up switching to 12/12.