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dirtysouthboss · 05-19-2005, 03:33 AM

liittle tiny tiny green ones eating my leaves on my brand new sour diesel, what the hell! I sprayed with bang twice, the pillars were still alive, I look at all the leaves and remove one from each plant, one plant had 4 or 5. Where do they come from, how do I stop them. I dont want to carry them into flower so they can shit turds all in my buds.

Help a brotha.

Also, why would the PH in an aeroflo 30 keep going down to 4.0 every 4 days when it sat steady at 6.0 after the res change and ph adjust? How do I keep the ph from dropping? I use rocks and coir cups that straw looking stuff? In the 4 week of flower or so it started dropping, now Im changing out the water every half week, what gives.

kurtty · 05-19-2005, 06:23 AM

Hey Catapillars eh? well those usually attack cabege crops. They usually dust them with a poison to kill them. But I dont think you want to use that on your bud.
You should try a parathryn spray. That should kill them, then once any eggs hatch, spray again.

As for your PH. The plant is using up nutrients and water. If the requirement of the plant shifts from lots of minerals and little water or vise versa, this can effect PH. Has temps in your room changed recently? Also, chilates break down and nutrients get locked out, this also effects PH. Do you have a ppm meter? if so, see if it is rising or falling. How full is your resevoir compaired to when it was full? Maybe it needs topping off with water and nutrients.

I hope that helped

Growdoc · 05-19-2005, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dirtysouthboss

liittle tiny tiny green ones eating my leaves on my brand new sour diesel, what the hell! I sprayed with bang twice, the pillars were still alive, I look at all the leaves and remove one from each plant, one plant had 4 or 5. Where do they come from, how do I stop them. I dont want to carry them into flower so they can shit turds all in my buds.

Help a brotha.

Also, why would the PH in an aeroflo 30 keep going down to 4.0 every 4 days when it sat steady at 6.0 after the res change and ph adjust? How do I keep the ph from dropping? I use rocks and coir cups that straw looking stuff? In the 4 week of flower or so it started dropping, now Im changing out the water every half week, what gives.

Catapillars must be hunted down one by one and killed... there is no need to get a hash chemical, just find them and kill them...

Growdoc

kurtty · 05-19-2005, 07:37 PM

Parathryns are natural plant extracts. I think its "parathons" that are petrolium based, alot harsher and break down slower.
Parathryns are pretty safe and break down in a matter of hours.
I think they can be used up to three days before harvest, But i wouldn't use them any closer then a week before harvest.

05-19-2005, 08:38 PM

These little fuckers will destroy a crop so quickly. The only way to kill them is by finding them and killing them by hand. If they get on your grow during the budding phase they will burrow into the bud, kill the bud, lay eggs and multiply so fast you won't be able to salvage shit.
Get them now while they are in plain site or they will ruin your whole crop.
I have had to deal with them many times only in outdoor grows though.

05-19-2005, 08:56 PM

See if your nursery or grow store will order powdered Bascillus Thurengis. You can get it in liquid(Safer-caterpiller killer) but typically won't be too alive sitting on a shelf. Liquid cultures typically smell bad as they are mostly dead. Anyways, This bacteria devours the eggs/larvae of caterpillers. Use at 1-3t.gallon, shaken vigorously as you need to aerate to activate. Will knock them out, and won't leave a bad taste on yer plants guarateed.

ES

BushyOldGrower · 05-19-2005, 09:03 PM

Sevin dust should work well. Safe on vegetables. BOG

bartender187 · 05-19-2005, 09:06 PM

^^^
Sevin Dust? Can you give us some more info on it? What is it?

Should they carry it at the local nursery?

thanks
bartender187

agreenthumb · 05-19-2005, 09:53 PM

Got any pics of the little buggers? I thought I had pillars too, but they were actually inchworms. the little punks munched on my vegging babies, pretty pesky, they hide on the undersides of leaves and just slowly devour your plant. catch and destroy... -A

dirtysouthboss · 05-20-2005, 05:00 PM

thats what Ive been doing, just hunting them and killing them one at a time. Usually they get a leaf or so before I can find them. But I have killed prob 10-15 so far.

Still havent figured out the PH, I dont have a PPM meter, just doing it withtout this grow. I know, I need one. So, dropping PH could be salt buildup? The PH drops in like two days if I put plain tap only in the res. I dont get it, do I need some clearex maybe? My plants have burnt tips, but they look good otherwise, little spotting, maybe mg def, hard to tell, this is my first grow with the aero

05-19-2005, 03:33 AM	#1
dirtysouthboss Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 39	Caterpillars??? liittle tiny tiny green ones eating my leaves on my brand new sour diesel, what the hell! I sprayed with bang twice, the pillars were still alive, I look at all the leaves and remove one from each plant, one plant had 4 or 5. Where do they come from, how do I stop them. I dont want to carry them into flower so they can shit turds all in my buds. Help a brotha. Also, why would the PH in an aeroflo 30 keep going down to 4.0 every 4 days when it sat steady at 6.0 after the res change and ph adjust? How do I keep the ph from dropping? I use rocks and coir cups that straw looking stuff? In the 4 week of flower or so it started dropping, now Im changing out the water every half week, what gives.
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05-19-2005, 08:38 PM	#5
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	catapillars These little fuckers will destroy a crop so quickly. The only way to kill them is by finding them and killing them by hand. If they get on your grow during the budding phase they will burrow into the bud, kill the bud, lay eggs and multiply so fast you won't be able to salvage shit. Get them now while they are in plain site or they will ruin your whole crop. I have had to deal with them many times only in outdoor grows though.
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05-19-2005, 09:03 PM	#7
BushyOldGrower Bubblegum Specialist Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: IN a cave in the Rocky Mountains Posts: 8,010	Sevin dust should work well. Safe on vegetables. BOG __________________ BushyOldGrower Nam Myoho Renge Kyo Breeder of BOG Seeds ...bogland72@gmail.com Get my book, "Bonanza of Green" @googleplay.com Disclaimer: "I KNOW NOTHING!"
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05-19-2005, 09:06 PM	#8
bartender187 Bakin in da Sun Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Planet Zeldar Posts: 2,949	^^^ Sevin Dust? Can you give us some more info on it? What is it? Should they carry it at the local nursery? thanks bartender187 __________________ Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestous sea of liberty. - Thomas Jefferson
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05-19-2005, 09:53 PM	#9
agreenthumb Cannabis Enthusiast Join Date: May 2005 Location: In the Mountains... Posts: 68	Got any pics of the little buggers? I thought I had pillars too, but they were actually inchworms. the little punks munched on my vegging babies, pretty pesky, they hide on the undersides of leaves and just slowly devour your plant. catch and destroy... -A __________________ https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=12119 AGT's outdoor grow "just another green thumb pursuing happiness"
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05-19-2005, 06:23 AM	#2
kurtty New Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	Hey Catapillars eh? well those usually attack cabege crops. They usually dust them with a poison to kill them. But I dont think you want to use that on your bud. You should try a parathryn spray. That should kill them, then once any eggs hatch, spray again. As for your PH. The plant is using up nutrients and water. If the requirement of the plant shifts from lots of minerals and little water or vise versa, this can effect PH. Has temps in your room changed recently? Also, chilates break down and nutrients get locked out, this also effects PH. Do you have a ppm meter? if so, see if it is rising or falling. How full is your resevoir compaired to when it was full? Maybe it needs topping off with water and nutrients. I hope that helped
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05-19-2005, 07:37 PM	#4
kurtty New Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 15	Parathryns are natural plant extracts. I think its "parathons" that are petrolium based, alot harsher and break down slower. Parathryns are pretty safe and break down in a matter of hours. I think they can be used up to three days before harvest, But i wouldn't use them any closer then a week before harvest.
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05-19-2005, 08:56 PM	#6
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	See if your nursery or grow store will order powdered Bascillus Thurengis. You can get it in liquid(Safer-caterpiller killer) but typically won't be too alive sitting on a shelf. Liquid cultures typically smell bad as they are mostly dead. Anyways, This bacteria devours the eggs/larvae of caterpillers. Use at 1-3t.gallon, shaken vigorously as you need to aerate to activate. Will knock them out, and won't leave a bad taste on yer plants guarateed. ES
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05-20-2005, 05:00 PM	#10
dirtysouthboss Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 39	thats what Ive been doing, just hunting them and killing them one at a time. Usually they get a leaf or so before I can find them. But I have killed prob 10-15 so far. Still havent figured out the PH, I dont have a PPM meter, just doing it withtout this grow. I know, I need one. So, dropping PH could be salt buildup? The PH drops in like two days if I put plain tap only in the res. I dont get it, do I need some clearex maybe? My plants have burnt tips, but they look good otherwise, little spotting, maybe mg def, hard to tell, this is my first grow with the aero
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