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Old 05-13-2009, 08:18 AM #1
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There is no such thing as organic HYDRIO

No wonder no one ever answers my questions on how to do a organic hydro grow there is no such thing

i tried using a mix of ej grow and bloom in my bubble bucket system, and i also mixed in some sugar daddy with some bud swell, and it bubbled up like crazy like it was a compost tea or something and all my plants fell over, but i saved them with the gh nutes, but damn it sure would be nice if there really was a organic hydro

i have the ej products but just the grow and bloom i am gonna supplement the other nutes from the ej products with bud swell and sugar daddy!!, but damn i dont always wanna have to bubble it for a day that will suck is there any other products that i can buy that i wont have to do this with????

is sugar daddy organic???

any way

CAN ANY BODY TELL ME HOW TO DO A ORGANIC HYDRO GROW

AND IN A ORGANIC SOIL GROW, DOES PH MATTER

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Old 05-13-2009, 08:31 AM #2
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No wonder no one ever answers my questions on how to do a organic hydro grow there is no such thing

i tried using a mix of ej grow and bloom in my bubble bucket system, and i also mixed in some sugar daddy with some bud swell, and it bubbled up like crazy like it was a compost tea or something and all my plants fell over, but i saved them with the gh nutes, but damn it sure would be nice if there really was a organic hydro

i have the ej products but just the grow and bloom i am gonna supplement the other nutes from the ej products with bud swell and sugar daddy!!, but damn i dont always wanna have to bubble it for a day that will suck is there any other products that i can buy that i wont have to do this with????

is sugar daddy organic???

any way

CAN ANY BODY TELL ME HOW TO DO A ORGANIC HYDRO GROW

AND IN A ORGANIC SOIL GROW, DOES PH MATTER

thanks!!!

What is Organic Gardening?
Organic gardening typically refers to gardening that uses on organic methods. Something is considered "organic" when it comes from the earth. For example, animals and plants are organic. Anything that comes from animals such as fecal matter is also organic. So anything that used in organic gardening needs to be organic and not artificial. Since water is organic, you can use both hydroponics and organic or semi-organic gardening in the same garden.
In addition to nutrients your plants also need oxygen and nitrogen to live and be able. It also has to have a proper pH (potential Hydrogen) balance. When you use hydroponics in addition to organic fertilizer and other organic gardening methods, you can have healthier, better plants.

Your growing media can also be vermiculite, perlite (pearlite), peat, coco-husk (coir), straw as well as other organic materials. You can use organic fertilizer from many different sources including cow, chicken, pig, and sheep manure, seaweed, bat guano, fish emulsion and entrails, urine, bone and blood, as well as many other natural sources. The problem with organic fertilizer is the obvious; that you must consider any possible health concerns.





Basically in a nut shell, using poo of animals is organic. So just make a tea out of some guano or something. If there was no such thing as organic hydro why would someone have that as a forum thread?



By the way PH matters in all growing aspects, whether it be soil or hydro.


Hope this helps considering you say no one answers your questions.

Below is an example of a organic nutrient solution for hydroponic, soil, and coco
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Old 05-13-2009, 05:48 PM #3
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ok thanks but im still wondering is sugar daddy organic, and if it isnt if i decide to use it does that mean im not organic any more???

thanks for the response

i just dont understand how im suspose to check my ph of my compost tea when it is black, do i do it after i water??

and even then if the ph is to low, how the heck do i raise it just by adding baking soda to my water, compost tea??

makes no sense

im in the dark

my plants are starting to flower and i need some serious help!!!
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:17 PM #4
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Trillyen, I think you should figure out the general science of growing before you devote yourself to a meticulous organic regimen. To answer your questions, though, pH is checked by feeding with an "x" pH and then testing the run off water. It'll be "x" or something +/-. Invest in some proper pH up/down and you'll be good to go. Do NOT add baking soda.

Understand that organic growing only works if you've got bacterias and fungus in the grow medium. They digest the organic nutes and convert them to material that the plants can absorb. If you don't have the beneficial microorganisms built up your plants will starve. Good news is that once you have everything dialed in you won't have to worry about pH at all. It becomes a self-regulating system. You're not "there" yet, though. So, get to work.
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ask organichydro, (the member)..
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:22 AM #6
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Organic pH issues

I hear a lot of people asking or talking about the pH of their organic soil mix or organic nute solution and how they might correct or adjust it. pH in organics is not an issue like it is in synthetic growing.
The best place to settle the pH issues in organics is within the grow medium. A medium rich in humates (humus) is the place to start. Humates work to "buffer" the pH of organic mediums and the nutes you pour (or mix) into it.
Humates come from compost, worm castings and bottled humus. If you use a peat based medum, use dolomite lime to raise the pH of the acidic peat. Dolomite should be used in any soil or soiless medium to provide magnesium and calcium. But since we are talking about pH here, I'll mention dolomite lime's pH correction benefits.
A medium of coir has a pH near neutral (or 7.0). But humates are still neded to allow uptake of organic nutrients that are outside a near neutral pH range.
With an active medium rich in humates you can pour in nutes like Pure Blend Pro, Earth Juice and guano teas with pH anywhere from 4 to 9 without worry. The humus will allow the nutes to be taken up through the roots, even at such an extreme pH reading.
So throw those pH meters away folks and enjoy the ease and safety of organic gardening.

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so does the previous statment not relate to hydro then i mean if its organic it shouldnt matter whether its hydro or soil am i right

CAN SOME ONE ANSWER IF SUGAR DADDY IS ORGANIC OR NOT!!!! PLEASE!!!!

even so in soil what does this mean he says i dont have to check my ph

i think im over ferting my mothers i fert them every 3rd watering maybe thats to much

how can u tell if a plant has nute burn???

when is it time to nute my new clones in my flowering room???

some people say to check the ph some say dont i mean i know what works for one may not work for the other but i really would like to not have to check my ph or adjust it if possible

the run off water of my plants is like 4.0 or some thing like that i mean if that really mattered my plants would be dead right, and they look pretty dang good ya know im gonna post some pics k!!!
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Old 05-14-2009, 06:39 AM #7
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you can go hydro completely organic


use teas made with nettles for veg and comfrey for flower. also throw in some kelp and you dont have to spend a dime
if you want a thread where there is some good info let me know
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Old 05-14-2009, 07:24 AM #8
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yea brenden hit me up with that thread i need all the help i can get

IS SUGAR DADDY ORGANIC

IS SUGAR DADDY ORGANIC

IS SUGAR DADDY ORGANIC

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IS SUGAR DADDY ORGANIC

IS SUGAR DADDY ORGANIC

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here is some pics of my crop notice some of the leafs yellowing on the bottom

all ive used so far to fert is a compost tea organic nute program every 3 days or so consisting of dark energy 1/2 tea spoon liquid karma 1/2 tea spoon 1 tbsp molasses, 1 cup ewc, 1 tbsp kelp 1-0-2, liquid sea weed maxi crop, and bat guano 10-2-1

and i let it brew for like36 hrs til it gets a good bubble foam to it then i add, i even cut it with water incase it qwas to strong up until my last nute, but my bottom leafs still seem to be dieing

is this normal i know all they are are stored energy but ive seen pics of huge plants where none of the leafs are dieing how can i achieve this

i want my plants to be ALL around healthy

how is this acheived

these are pics of my flowering rrom and my veg room as of 15 mins ago!!!!

let me know if im doing anything the wrong way!!!
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:50 PM #10
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Trillyen, SugarDaddy is NOT organic. I gave Technaflora a phone call for ya. Easy. Done. As for your plants they look fine to me.

That little spot on the lower leaf looks like it could be a potassium deficiency, but it's clear that it hasn't affected the rest of the plant. You probably needed some during recent growth and the plant moved it from the bottom to the top. I'd just make sure that the stuff is available going forward and consider that spot to be yesterday's news.
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