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Old 04-27-2009, 09:03 PM #1
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A few suggestions for controlling trolls

High there! I've enjoyed contributing on this site for several years now, ever since the demise of Overgrow.com. I just have a few ideas I'd like to share, concerning new features that could be added to make trolls less of a problem.

Lets face it, public forums like this have been around for almost as long as the net itself, and trolls have been here ever since. In that time many trolls have gone pro, meaning they know how to far they can go without being plainly seen as a troll, and lets face it, the Mods can't just go around banning people anytime they run afoul another member, epecially when evidence of trolling is thin at best.

I got to thinking about it after a recent run in, and I think I have a great solution to the problem! ICmag and many other forums have the ignore feature, where a member can put another offensive member on a list and no longer see the offending members posts.

What if the ignore function was expanded? Basically, when the ignore function is applied to another(non-mod) member, that member can no longer see posts by the member that has placed him on ignore, and how about also making it so the ignored member cannot post in, or if possible even see threads authored by the ignoring party?

It seems to me that this would allow individuals to handle most troll problems on their own, without bogging down the Admin/Mods with constant petty complaints. It would also allow constructive members to keep their threads on track, without ridiculous side tracks.

I can't see a down side to this at all, good for the members, good for the Mods, and bad for trolls
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:11 PM #2
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(A % of)People would get pissed that they were on ignore, and it would cause more flaming and other trollish activity. I say hit em with a funny picture and move on.

I dunno, just a troll's pov. KIDDING
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:13 PM #3
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You see, I write threads to be coherent, I'm not just here to chat, I'm here to teach and learn, when a troll decides to smudge my thread it takes away from the quality of it.

I still don't see a downside, if you don't want to be ignored, be polite, simple as that.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:16 PM #4
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I bet that would be an option some members would pay to get.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:51 PM #5
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Of course the simplest solution is usually the best. If you ignore them they go away. I've had trolls in 2 threads that I started, and one time I simply ignored the posts (manually, not through the website), and the other time I released a lil frustration out on the troll with some funny pix. It felt good, and got the point across.

On another board I put someone on ignore, and that was the end of that. I dunno if they trolled me after that...

I wasn't belittling your idea, backcountry, and I apologize if I came across as such. I was simply playing Devil's advocate and providing a possible hang up. I appreciate you taking the time to make life easier for the contributing members.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:04 PM #6
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barletta- I thankyou for your imput, of course!

I've been a prominent contributor in the outdoor forums of several sites since 2005. In that time I've collected a few "enemies", any poster who has used the same handle for years will pick up these folks, who from time to time take out puppet handles, and use them to troll threads and posts of their targets.

I used to just ignore them, but I'm getting fed up with members who proceed to write LONGGGGGGGGGGGG posts in my threads, using up my space, in my structured thread to handout insults under the guise of "advise", or observation.

Of late there have been countless new members posting here, with join dates in '08/'09, who have very little idea of the proper way to enter and contribute to threads. Some of these folks are not new members, many are puppets used by established members for the purpose of winning arguments, and to use for boosting their established older handles rep.
This is a problem you will have at any site that becomes popular, Overgrow had all the same problems ICmag deals with everyday.

I think my idea eliminates this problem.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:56 PM #7
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nice idea BC! will you analyze this thread and tell me if there is a troll here? i am new to this and i am being accused of trollism lol?
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:46 PM #8
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There is another method that we have in our tool box that we haven't employed yet. There's an infraction system which we can use to downgrade ppl's status if they are troublesome, eventually leading to banning if enough infractions are issued.

We could try it out, but it would probably take awhile for us to fine tune it so it's not abused. It also relies upon a lot of input from members, so ppl need be proactive in giving the trolls infractions.

I'm thinking it will create more work for everyone though cause then there will be a lot of discussion, questions, complaints etc about the system requiring not just mods, but members to justify their complaints (perhaps then they will understand how mods feel).

All of that drama takes away from what the site is supposed to be about.

So BC, your idea ain't a bad one. Have you seen a hack that does this?
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:37 AM #9
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ive been on forums since 04' w/ over 10,000 posts on a dozen or so forums. the one thing i have found is alot of members of forums r too sensitive to live in a society.
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Old 05-01-2009, 02:46 AM #10
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So what is exactly a Troll? I am sure I do troll around but I don't flame here on IC mag, seem that I can't even go to other sites because of the Trolls......or that on some people make me want to Troll around.

My karma is pretty good here right now, lot's of positive and only one negative and well; that happens.
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