[pescador]

I have long overdue smoke reports to come with some picks that I will get done in the next coming days. Amongst the strains i grew last year were 2 female Canelas, each very different, one being extremely indian, tasting exactly like expensive Manali hash I recently had in Amsterdam, and the other very Jamaican pheno.

I grew a zamal from gypsy too that hermied. I did not catch the hermi trait soon enough as I was away (seemed to auto flower a bit). Anyway, I have lots of seeds, mainly from the purple/brown rich Manali pheno. The zamal produced a tiny bit of smoke that was the best high I have experienced (do hermies produce a different high, I now wonder). So I feel that these seeds may have value. If anyone serious about growing and breeding is interested in some seeds, then pm me and I will sent them for free provided they grow them out and select out the hermies (I assume not all will hermy). I may have about 200 seeds.



The Manali pheno is very resinous and tastes like amazing sweet earthy/insensy hash, and produces a calming (not sleepy), yet slightly visually psychedelic expansive high, no anxiety. The jamaican pheno produced a very clean and clear and energetic high, not as calming. Both are great. Both were harvested on the later side to ensure seed maturity, and underwent some cold temps before harvesting.

I have to many strains to grow and can only grow 5 for space/security reasons, so i want to keep this potential strain alive. Priority will go to those that breed, even on a small scale.

[Jomiber]

Hola pescador,

I'm very interested in breed some of these beens. Since I cultivated canela for first time in 2007 I falled in love with her... I could do a croos with Orient Express male. Unfourtunately all descendent became male, exempting 1 female (very resinous, with a tasty very similar to the father) that gifted to a friend

This season I'm going to grow some canelas F2 that Tas (Cannabiscabe breeder) gifted to me, the male was hermie too.

I haven't enough posts to send you a MP so we can contact via CC (I remember you there if im not wrong, and ni bitox too).

Saludos!

Hi, nice results Pescador

seems you catched one with the indian essence indeed, so creamy usually as well and "calm" effect (not clouckout at all but meditative and spiritual type) can make nice buds. Hard to know about Zamal sex behavior instead, such a long and powerful beast. Am sure whatever comes out canl be so interesting

Jomiber, those Canela are almost last seeds of original F1 I sent to Tas in the hope and wish they can find something interesting (were looking for coffe aromas I think) and maybe worth to save or continue. Hope you are lucky and they do well. It takes around 12 weeks

Bets luck amigos

[pescador]

You are certainly welcome to many seeds Jomiber, but I was never on any other board I think. Try mping me once you have cleared enough posts. If you need these in a hurry for this growing season, then let me know and I'll sign up to those other forums so we can safely talk.

Thanks Charlie Garcia. You will see the difference in phenos once I post the pics. You describe the high better than me, and the taste is indeed very hashy/creamy. I think a cross with the more potent zamal will create a nice high, and from what I understand of the Zamal, the high of certain phenos could use some expansive calming. All parts of this cross come from strains bred in cultures where the plant is spiritually scared...a nice thought when thinking of a strain's breeding past.

The Hermie of the Zamal showed only very few female tenancies starting in mid flowering. Only a few stigmas appeared, so it was not that bad. I think finding a pure male in the zamal seedstock from Christoph's stock is rare, from what I read, especially when factoring in the added stress of lower light intensity etc... I know this is a hard question to answer, but would it be reasonable to suspect that a good number of these seeds would be viable?

[Jomiber]

Hello pescador,

I thought you was the same pescador LOL. If you want yo can send me a MP with a contac e-mail or you can register at ************.net, there you can send MP without any restrictions.

Cheers!

[dubi]

High pescador, it's good to see you around :smile:

I like a lot your description of Canela and Zamal, i think you find their essence.

We haven't worked more with Canela due the lost of the Malana mother and the hermie problems in the hybrid. Anyway i´m glad you found interesting expressions. Zamal is also a hermie problematic strain, more on the male side, it's hard to find a firm male.

You can easily find hermie plants in your cross but others will stay firm for sure, if you like the effect of the parental plants then i'd grow a few to see what happens. Best wishes!

[VanVulpen]

Salut Pescador,
That zamal of yours sounds like a true killer. Did you germed yourself? What was the ratio? I was thinking of ordering some GN Zamal myself until dubi releases his zamal crosses... They might be old seeds but looks like they are the only ones comercially availlable from that part of the world and i want to give them a try anyway

[pescador]

Sorry for the delay Jomiber, I will send you an email asap. I have been busy. You will get many seeds though!

Thanks Dubi. I think you are right, that there will be a fair amount of solid sexed seeds produced.

Hi VanVulpen, no I myself have not germed them. I went through a seed buying phase a couple of years ago and must grow out the ones that are needed for small breeding and the old stocks. I do have friends growing the zamal X canela manali p, about 6 total, so I will keep you posted. I may start one up too. But I keep my plant numbers to under 5, and my batch this year will be Apollo 11, GN Zamal (only 1 in 10 popped, as they are old and hard to germ, so keep that in mind for your order considerations), Seedsman Malawi, mystery jamaican (that looks too indica to me, so I may give it away), and a nepalese jam.

Here are some pics of the mother Canlea Manali Pheno which is heavily seeded (thus these are the seeds I have the most to offer):

https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?al...ictureid=68726


https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?...ictureid=68727


https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?al...ictureid=68728


https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?al...ictureid=68729

Here is the Jamaican pheno, which produced much smaller seeds (the size of the zamal):

https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?...ictureid=68730

[pescador]

So I figured that the safest thing to do was to create an email account for anyone who wants these seeds to send me there request. The only condition is that you help breed out the hermies and re-spread the seeds. I have about 300 manali p still, about 100 jamaica p, and not too many people seem eager to sift through this. I think that sexing early by triggering a temporary short early flowering a couple of weeks into growing could help.

canelaseeds@ymail.com

let me know

[pescador]

A couple of last thoughts while I have time,

Dispite being heavily seeded, the canela manali p still produced a lot of bud, proportionaly more than any of the other strains. She is a heavy yielder. In contrast, the jamaican pheno, with its thinner leaved, produced the least out of my batch (grown at 45 N lat).

I grew out a federation seeds Hawaiian sativa that produces a very strong, and racey tense effect (nervous if you were not doing anything productive). Some zamal phenos apparently had a very strong, racey effect. One of the best smokes I am enjoying now is mixing the manali canela with the hawaiian. The canalea calms the hawaiian's effect without making you tiered. The resulting high is extremely bright, happy, lucid and motivational. Therefore, I suspect a similar effect with this cross.

Aslo, a very unique thing about both canela smokes is that on me at least, it has one of the most pleasant come-down after effects, almost like the mellow good feeling you get after you exercised. Most other strains on me produce an uncomfortable, cloudy dirty kind of crash.