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Old 10-14-2016, 04:37 AM #1991
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Find an electrician, tell him/her what your needs are and ask it to be build to comply with Code and ESA.
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Are any of the commercial brands of these boxes up to code?

edit: seems like the autopilot v2 have some sort of fuse between the feed and receptacles now. However doesnt look like the titan controls or sentinel have this.
I am not aware of any commercially available controllers in the US that are code-compliant. I couldn't find any information on the V2, but the other controllers in the Autopilot lineup seem to be of the same ilk as the rest of the competition.
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Rives, you and I should start a company and offer OTS lighting controllers that are safe and code compliant.
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I am not aware of any commercially available controllers in the US that are code-compliant. I couldn't find any information on the V2, but the other controllers in the Autopilot lineup seem to be of the same ilk as the rest of the competition.

here is the newer model, with picture of inside:

https://www.hydrofarm.com/downloads/..._2016_4678.pdf



Wish I could find an internal picture of this unit:
https://pan-techcorp.com/-green-house-products/glc-u45
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Powerbox units are ETL listed and UL approved
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ETL listed does not mean they are NEC or CEC compliant, they are not built to code.
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here is the newer model, with picture of inside:

https://www.hydrofarm.com/downloads/..._2016_4678.pdf



Wish I could find an internal picture of this unit:
https://pan-techcorp.com/-green-house-products/glc-u45


I see they are too cheap to add a ring or spade terminals to the end of the wires attached to the receptacles, they used the "quickwire" insert.
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here is the newer model, with picture of inside:

https://www.hydrofarm.com/downloads/..._2016_4678.pdf



Wish I could find an internal picture of this unit:
https://pan-techcorp.com/-green-house-products/glc-u45
There doesn't appear to be any fusing inside, and it is a dead certainty that no device capable of either 120v or 240v operation on the same receptacle will meet code.


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Powerbox units are ETL listed and UL approved
As was mentioned on the previous page, they aren't UL approved - they say that they "conform to UL STD 1640", which is limited to: Exhibition halls; Temporary installations in construction sites; Television and movie production studios; Carnivals, fairs and similar locations; Theaters and television studios where audiences are present.

There does not appear to be a UL sticker on them, and as HVAC Guy said, they do not conform to code.

https://standardscatalog.ul.com/stan.../standard_1640


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I see they are too cheap to add a ring or spade terminals to the end of the wires attached to the receptacles, they used the "quickwire" insert.
They did at least add fuses correct? That's what those big off white colored things on the top half are? Granted they are not replaceable

Its funny I noticed how shitty the quickwire connection on my MLC-4x was. Seems so non ideal for a high amperage connection. Maybe for some speakers or something okay.

I believe the connection for the pan tech is more like a car battery. Its UL 94 V1 certified, seems better (certification anyways) than the powerbox.

I dont have a trustworthy local electrician to deal with. I actually have a patient that is an electrician that I would trust, but he is so busy and I lost his phone number. Waiting for him to call me, but he only picks up like ~6 times a year... He's due though.

edit: Hmm, now I wonder what all the extra stuff that was added to the inside, here is the older version with much less inside:
https://hydrofarm.com/downloads/fc/M...tions_5902.pdf

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They did at least add fuses correct? That's what those big off white colored things on the top half are? Granted they are not replaceable

Its funny I noticed how shitty the quickwire connection on my MLC-4x was. Seems so non ideal for a high amperage connection. Maybe for some speakers or something okay.

I believe the connection for the pan tech is more like a car battery. Its UL 94 V1 certified, seems better (certification anyways) than the powerbox.

I dont have a trustworthy local electrician to deal with. I actually have a patient that is an electrician that I would trust, but he is so busy and I lost his phone number. Waiting for him to call me, but he only picks up like ~6 times a year... He's due though.

edit: Hmm, now I wonder what all the extra stuff that was added to the inside, here is the older version with much less inside:
https://hydrofarm.com/downloads/fc/M...tions_5902.pdf
Those don't appear to be fuses to me. I would suspect that they are the relays, but there is no way to be sure without a schematic or physically examining one.
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