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Old 11-01-2009, 01:35 AM #121
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PharmaCan - Hey thanks a lot. I suppose I should match the gauge of the wire in the "power strip" to the gauge of the wiring to the receptacle (at least) or do you recommend something.

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I always used 12ga. wire for the cord and the wires to the receptacles.

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Any sparkys around?I did see a diagram for wiring 2 240 outlets using the pigtail method but how to do 4?Just add to that pigtail?Please show me!!!!
Well, assuming that you have the proper size wire and the proper size circuit, then, yeah, you can just add more pigtails. You're probably coming in with 10ga. wire so, take four pieces of 12ga. wire and wire nut them on to each hot leg then run two hots, one from each leg, to each receptacle. Do the same with your ground. ...I guess that's what you're asking.

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PharmaCan - Thanks. That is what I was thinking so it helps me to think I am not totally lost.

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I always used 12ga. wire for the cord and the wires to the receptacles.



Well, assuming that you have the proper size wire and the proper size circuit, then, yeah, you can just add more pigtails. You're probably coming in with 10ga. wire so, take four pieces of 12ga. wire and wire nut them on to each hot leg then run two hots, one from each leg, to each receptacle. Do the same with your ground. ...I guess that's what you're asking.

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Coming into the timer will be either 10ga or a dryer plug.What I need to see is a wiring diagram for 4 240v simplex outlets coming out of that timer.First off I'm confused why you are telling me to use 12 ga.I have a WH40 timer.I still dont understand your wiring explanation.I need to see some kind of diagram.
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This is what I would like to build.I already have 2 "little grey box"es.Where can I get those 240v duplexs at??And then how to wire that???Anybody have pics with the receptacle opened up?I honestly cant believe there isnt a Sticky in the DIY section on these controllers.
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This is what I would like to build.I already have 2 "little grey box"es.Where can I get those 240v duplexs at??And then how to wire that???Anybody have pics with the receptacle opened up?I honestly cant believe there isnt a Sticky in the DIY section on these controllers.
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Coming into the timer will be either 10ga or a dryer plug.What I need to see is a wiring diagram for 4 240v simplex outlets coming out of that timer.First off I'm confused why you are telling me to use 12 ga.I have a WH40 timer.I still dont understand your wiring explanation.I need to see some kind of diagram.
Sorry - I have no way to make a drawing.

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Anyone?Look I can wire shit.Just explain like red wire goes here,black goes there you know real easy like?I dont know sparky terms.Hot leg?? OK I have a 30 amp double pole in the box and 10ga going from the box into a WH40.From the WH 40,please explain in the easiest terms possible how to wire 4 240 v outlets.Or better yet where to get the 240v duplex's as I posted above as I think those would work out better.But if I cant get those duplex as I cant find them at home depot at all only the single outlet 240v then thats what I'll have to use but still couldnt really understand your direction you gave me and still dont know why you say to use 12 ga on a 30amp line?Was that a typo or what?Please explain?
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take the ground wire off the 30A cord and ground it to the timer case via the ground screw on the clock face.
that leaves you w/ 2 wires left on the cord.
there will be 2 screws marked "line" on the plastic screws cover.
put 1 wire under each screw on the clock.
that takes care of the power side of the clock.

take your wire going to your 240v receptacles and ground the ground wire to the same ground screw the power side ground went to.
then take one wire and place under each "load" screw.

now your clock is wired.
i would recommend using the appropriate connector when attaching the line/load wires to the clock.
i'd use a 3/4" rx connector for the dryer cord.


then whatever wire you use to run to your receptacles, use the right connector.
rx conn for romex
bx conn for metal wires (mc, bx, ac, etc)

finding duplex receptacles rated for 240v can be a chore.
your best bet might be to buy 4 single receptacles @ 240v.
you could always gang up a set of singles into 2 boxes to make life easier.

tech speaking, the most your gonna run off any single 240v outlet is most likely a 1k.
thats about 4.5A @ 240v.
you could even make your pigtails 14 awg if it makes it easier to splice all those together for ya.
but thats only for each single receptacle.
you still want to run 10awg's from the clock to your splice point.

unless, you plan on putting the plugs right next to the clock.
if u used an offset/ shoulder nipple, you could just sleeve the 14's thru the nipple and put em all right onto the load screws of the clock.
you got options, depending on how you go about it.
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If all this is going to be fed by a 30A double Pole breaker, then ALL wiring to point of terminations need to be atleast 10 AWG. No splicing to #12 or even to #14 for your receptacle conections. Othersise it's no longer a 30A circuit but now rated for the smallest wire that you are using.

I'm not entirely sure they make a NEMA 6-30R duplex receptacle. What you would have to do is buy a 4 gang box and use 4 single 6-30r's or how many you ever need. It all has to be #10AWG tho, otherwise you need to bump the breaker down to the rating of the smallest conductor.

Not sure I like all this talk about #12 and #14 on a 30A breaker.........
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Thanks Frank that does help some.Yes I am going to mount the receptacles right next to the timer just like in the pic above.What I need to see is how to actually wire all 4 receptacles.I know how to wire a single 240v as I just wired a 220v line for an ac unit.,but I dont know how to actually wire 4 receptacle like in the pic and how to make a box that hold all 4 like in the pic I posted.Yes thanks Madpenguin.I am using ALL 10 ga I dont know why anyone would go smaller???Please anybody able to somehow show me or in very simple terms tell me how to wire all 4 240v receptacles into a 4 gang box.Thanks for the help .
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