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Old 10-30-2009, 09:59 PM #111
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Are power strips to be treated like extension cords as being only a temporary solution and not up to code for anything of any length of time?

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I think we all probably use powerstrips in our grow room including myself. It just depends on what you plug into them. Sump pumps, air pumps and very low draw stuff is ok. HID lighting on timers is a good way to start a fire.

Extension cords, powerstrips, the plug in outlet extenders.... They all run a risk of catching fire, depending on the wattage going through them.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:44 AM #113
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Wow is that type really small on your NEC quote on the flexible cords when it is displayed on this 17" monitor at 1024x768. I will try to find a pdf copy of the NEC guide.
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It uses the RealRead Viewer which requires Java, but who doesn't have Sun's Java Runtime Environment installed?
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:27 AM #114
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I think we all probably use powerstrips in our grow room including myself. It just depends on what you plug into them. Sump pumps, air pumps and very low draw stuff is ok. HID lighting on timers is a good way to start a fire.

Extension cords, powerstrips, the plug in outlet extenders.... They all run a risk of catching fire, depending on the wattage going through them.
OK that is what I thought. You will have to pardon me, I wrote a paragraph in response to this, but of course MicroShaft screwed up and I lost it all. Let me try to remember what I typed before...

From my understanding, it is best to use a relay via a timer or environmental controller to cut the power to high amperage devices such as an HPS. How does one cycle the ballast before cutting the power to it?

Is there a way to create a very safe power strip?

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Old 10-31-2009, 01:39 PM #115
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Yea, plugging a timer into a powerstrip and then having a small cord run to a relay with your main juice in the relay box is the best way to do stuff like that.

Someone posted a DIY on that not too long ago and it was very well built. Wish I could find that link again...

What do you mean by "cycle the ballast"? Are you flip/floping or something?
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Make your own. I used to make these for construction jobs all the time - they're so cool they get stolen a lot so I made them fairly regularly. lol

Anyway, get a double gang box and some good-quality 15 amp receptacles and wire it all up with #12 wire and a good cord end and you have a good quality power strip - not real pretty, but good quality. If you're just going to be running small stuff with low current draw, you can use a three gang box and get six sockets. ...or you can install one switch/receptacle combo and switch the receptacles. Use pigtails coming off the incoming line and neutral to wire your receptacles - then it won't matter what's plugged in where. Be sure to install a cover plate of some kind. Use the shortest amount of cord that you think you can get away with. Don't get unsafe in this pursuit, but, the shorter the cord the less the current drop, so be reasonable.

If you think there might be moisture issues - which there really shouldn't be with electrical stuff, but... - use a waterproof box and fittings for your assembly.

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I just bought 2 WH40's for 20$ each @ home depot they are changing over to GE so they were on clearance.I want to run 4 1k's per timer.I looked for 240 volt duplexes but couldnt find those, only a 240 v simplex.I take it they dont make a 240 duplex?Can someone show me wiring diagram for 4 240v simplex coming from my WH40 please?Thanks
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Hi MADPENGUIN may i use s.s.r.(solid state relay )instead of using mecanical one for switching HPS.
In 120 volt i know i have to open the hot wire (black)but with 240v 2 hot wire do i need 2 s.s.r. ? S.S.R. will be rated at 40 amp at 240v. with cooler . i will drive 2 1000 watts ballast.
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Someone posted a DIY on that not too long ago and it was very well built. Wish I could find that link again...

What do you mean by "cycle the ballast"? Are you flip/floping or something?
I thought I read that it was best to turn off the the ballast before removing power to it. But I have read so much lately, I do not recall where I saw. They may have simply been talking about a flip/flop and I am just confused.

I did remember something that I had typed the first time, that I forgot to retype the second time...

Let's say I have a circuit with several receptacles and only receptacles. on a single single breaker. Can a single receptacle on the circuit handle the entire recommended amp load (80% of total rating) or do I just see what gauge wire is connected to the recceptacle to see if it can handle the recommended max load?

Thank you so much for the information and patience. When I look for an electrician, I certainly hope I find someone who takes as much pride in the craftsmanship as you do.


PharmaCan - Hey thanks a lot. I suppose I should match the gauge of the wire in the "power strip" to the gauge of the wiring to the receptacle (at least) or do you recommend something.

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I just bought 2 WH40's for 20$ each @ home depot they are changing over to GE so they were on clearance.I want to run 4 1k's per timer.I looked for 240 volt duplexes but couldnt find those, only a 240 v simplex.I take it they dont make a 240 duplex?Can someone show me wiring diagram for 4 240v simplex coming from my WH40 please?Thanks
Any sparkys around?I did see a diagram for wiring 2 240 outlets using the pigtail method but how to do 4?Just add to that pigtail?Please show me!!!!
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