[beek]

So now I understand that if I pollinate LR2 female with LR2 male I will get 100% AF seeds.

Now if I grow those seeds and pollinate again LR2 female with LR2 male will I again have 100% AF genetics ?

Thank you for your answers

[shroomyshroom]

you basicaly answered the question your self

the answer is yes

[beek]

Great thanks

Now further wondering. When I make let's say fourth batch of seeds will the quality degrade or should I expect the same plants as from original seeds.

All in all as long as I pollinate AF with AF I will get AF. Sounds good

[Tropic]

Originally Posted by beek

Now further wondering. When I make let's say fourth batch of seeds will the quality degrade or should I expect the same plants as from original seeds.

You can expect better plants than the originals if you select your parents carefully each generation. Having many selected plants is better, as the resulting seeds will have a more diverse genetic background (rather than just pollinating one female with one male - but it works too).

Peace

[shroomyshroom]

Originally Posted by Tropic

You can expect better plants than the originals if you select your parents carefully each generation. Having many selected plants is better, as the resulting seeds will have a more diverse genetic background (rather than just pollinating one female with one male - but it works too).

Peace

hit the nail right ont he head... things improve with selective breeding

[antimatter]

The more you cross it the more of the ruderalis genes are going to be present, it would be better to just buy more seeds to breed with than to keep breeding your own stock.

[rebo]

Originally Posted by antimatter

The more you cross it the more of the ruderalis genes are going to be present

Although possible, not necessarily definite.

What I mean is, not necessarily will more ruderalis genes be present with selective breeding. If you breed a shepard/retriever with a shepard/retriever will you get more retriever, or more shepard, in the offspring? The outcome is partially dependant on the genes of the parents, as well as other factors, such as predisposition, mutations, environmental factors, etc..
Selecting specific parents increases the odds that the offspring will have inherited certain specific traits possessed by the selected parents. Weather those traits are more retriever genes, or more shepard genes, or even specific behaviors in the children. The outcome can be steered towards through selective breeding.

[Tropic]

In my personal experience ruderalis genes (I presume that antimatter meant low potency autoflowering plants) don't come back in the crosses, but so far I have only inbred 3 generations of the same AFs. Maybe further down the road I'll see potency decrease, but for now, things have been getting better and better each time, don't know if it's me having them dialed in better, or selecting good parents for each generations, or both, but I believe my last generation plants are way better (regarding potency, yield and aroma/taste) than their parents/grandparents.

Peace

[*mr.mike*]

Originally Posted by antimatter

The more you cross it the more of the ruderalis genes are going to be present, it would be better to just buy more seeds to breed with than to keep breeding your own stock.

When you consider that the ruderalis part was used only to give an autoflowering gene, and nothing else, and that the plants were selected based on potency (for quite a few years now) to make them more appealing, how do figure that ruderalis genes would increase?

Consider this... while only a few years ago, people were dying from diseases they didn't know were genetic. Now, with treatments and medicines for these diseases, and these people affected living longer and having offspring. Why is it that prevalence and spread of these genetic diseases has remained stable?

I think a simple course in genetics would clear up a lot of your Hoodoo and hocus-pocus.

In other words, NO. The ruderalis genes are so few, and since ruderalis is the exact same species as all other marijuana/hemp, these genes are at worst very small parts of the plants genome by now, and at best, they are exactly the same, if not hardier, than most available strains.

I dont want to hijack this thread,but I have another question.If you get some lowryder male pollen,and pollenate a regular female,will the seeds be autos?
I have some dwarf mix seeds soaking now,and planned on crossing the females with some regular pollen I have frozen,and also planned on saving any LR male pollen for crosses.Ive done quite a few crosses,but this is my first LR grow.