[Puffster]

Anyone heard anything about or tried Dutch Passions new autoflower plants? They dont state using lowryder in the cross but I suspect they have, quite expensive stuff though, and only available in feminized form I think

might be interesting since the names indicate that the AF part might come from some eastern european \ russian landraces....but then again it just might be another lowryder\lowryder 2 cross (?)

Here we go with the descriptions:

Dutch Passion Tundra Feminized:

Autoflowering Tundra is an hybrid between an autoflowering Ruderalis/Indica and our outdoor champion Passion #1. We chose Passion #1 for it’s outstanding “outdoor” qualities: healty (pestresistant), strong and early flowering, soft smoke and superb taste. Spicy, lemon and grapefruit.Small bushy plants. Mild Up-High. THC: flowering period: 8 – 11 weeks harvest time outdoor: depending on sowing time. yield: Outdoor 25 to 30 grams per plant

Dutch Passion Taiga Feminized:

Autoflowering Taiga is an hybrid between an auto-flowering Ruderalis/Indica and Power Plant. From our famous Power Plant gene pool we selected an extreme early flowering female Power Plant. This female we used to produce the female pollen. These pollen we used to fertilze the female Ruderalis/Indica. Taiga grows with big compact buds. The smell and taste are evident Power Plant. Taiga is a very good yielder for such a small plant. Taiga does not ask for a special fertilizing regime, which means that it’s easy to grow. Containers of 1.5 to 2 liters are sufficient to garantee a good harvest. Taiga loves a place in the sun, which she needs for a quality yield. Taiga has a short lifecycle, from seed to bud 8 to 10 weeks. Height of plants: 50-60 cm THC: flowering period: 8 - 10 weeks harvest time outdoor: depending on sowing time. yield: 25 to 30 grams per plant

[Molson]

Interesting... seems like they'd do decent outdoors. I'd try it out if I didn't already have the stock I'm gonna run.. But I guess I could spare a few extra dollars

new.? they been around as well as a few others

Just goes to show you how big the AF movement is becoming. And for the only released in FEM form,, that is because they want to protect thier work... Unlike a few other AF breeders have fallen victom to genetic thieves, you control the males you control an AF line. It is just an insurrance policy from them to keep the original breeding stock thier own. A practice that will become the norm soon.

Oh and ya it is almost certain that they used a LR hybrid of somesort to make them... and here is the real question,, it take many generation to lock down the AF trait and make a stable new AF strain , at least F7 should be acchieved before release to the market.... SO,,, why aren't there any pics supplied by DP???? Seems a bit fishy if you ask me,, shady breeding work is becoming MORE and MORE common. For the fact that they state that the Tundra can take 8-11 weeks to finish,, I really don't understand how a 3 week variation window is a good thing for a stable AF strain. Even if environmental conditions arise,, if you have some plants harvest at 8 weeks and some at 11 weeks in the same area, that is far from a stable AF line and goes against the whole AF concept. To be very predictable and make growing the easiest it can be. Don't take me wrong here ,, this is not a judgement until I try them out. Just assessing the available info.

[shroomyshroom]

Originally Posted by IceColdCrickets

Just goes to show you how big the AF movement is becoming. And for the only released in FEM form,, that is because they want to protect thier work... Unlike a few other AF breeders have fallen victom to genetic thieves, you control the males you control an AF line. It is just an insurrance policy from them to keep the original breeding stock thier own. A practice that will become the norm soon.

Oh and ya it is almost certain that they used a LR hybrid of somesort to make them... and here is the real question,, it take many generation to lock down the AF trait and make a stable new AF strain , at least F7 should be acchieved before release to the market.... SO,,, why aren't there any pics supplied by DP???? Seems a bit fishy if you ask me,, shady breeding work is becoming MORE and MORE common. For the fact that they state that the Tundra can take 8-11 weeks to finish,, I really don't understand how a 3 week variation window is a good thing for a stable AF strain. Even if environmental conditions arise,, if you have some plants harvest at 8 weeks and some at 11 weeks in the same area, that is far from a stable AF line and goes against the whole AF concept. To be very predictable and make growing the easiest it can be. Don't take me wrong here ,, this is not a judgement until I try them out. Just assessing the available info.

agreed %100

still would be nice to have an auto strain that would veg properly for 3 weeks, atleast you would get more than a o that way

[rebo]

I'd always heard that DP was pretty respected as far as quality goes..
but those seeds are freaking expensive.

[Mr.Jones]

Originally Posted by IceColdCrickets

Just goes to show you how big the AF movement is becoming. And for the only released in FEM form,, that is because they want to protect thier work... Unlike a few other AF breeders have fallen victom to genetic thieves, you control the males you control an AF line. It is just an insurrance policy from them to keep the original breeding stock thier own. A practice that will become the norm soon.

Oh and ya it is almost certain that they used a LR hybrid of somesort to make them... and here is the real question,, it take many generation to lock down the AF trait and make a stable new AF strain , at least F7 should be acchieved before release to the market.... SO,,, why aren't there any pics supplied by DP???? Seems a bit fishy if you ask me,, shady breeding work is becoming MORE and MORE common. For the fact that they state that the Tundra can take 8-11 weeks to finish,, I really don't understand how a 3 week variation window is a good thing for a stable AF strain. Even if environmental conditions arise,, if you have some plants harvest at 8 weeks and some at 11 weeks in the same area, that is far from a stable AF line and goes against the whole AF concept. To be very predictable and make growing the easiest it can be. Don't take me wrong here ,, this is not a judgement until I try them out. Just assessing the available info.

yeah im that opinion as well!

sensi seeds is breeding ruderalis indica now for i think nearly 15 years and 10 years ago in netherlands the laws werent really enforced anymore. so sensi seeds had a huge greenhouse to work with, to select quality plants and do some true breeding!
a year ago i had ruderalis indica and the 2 plants i grew indoor werent autoflowering at all! i put them after 4 weeks of vegi and about 9 branches under 12/12 and they started flowering like usual plants.
today in the netherlands the laws are strictly enforced and even sensi had to tear down their greenhouse - so did greenhouse seed co. and some other companies!
the dope i got from the ruderalis indica was really weak! the plant hermied and didnt yield very good - but the yield was alright!

so why should dutch passion come up with a perfect autoflowering strain now since they probably have to face, like every other seed company in the netherlands, the problem of getting their greenhouse busted with a perfect autoflowering strain?
why are they releasing 2 project at one time? i dont think its worth the money! ... i think going with lowrider for having some early yields and with some killer outdoorstrain will be much more intelligent!

[raz1012]

Taiga sounds like a rip off of Mdanzigs Powerstout work. It would be nice if breeders could make some new autoflowering strains with the thousands of strains that havent been used yet.

[THC123]

They probably have been working for a long time on this.

Don't bash DP unless you try their seeds

raz1012 they are coming. and I have tried DP stuff, 5 of thier strains ,, 4 where Shit (hermies, mutants, ect...) 1 was killler (Oasis NL#2)....