Sourbubbleryder The moment of truth. - Mdanzig Seeds - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

mdanzig · 03-14-2009, 02:30 AM

Well, since Im becoming ever more increasingly unhappy with the final product of the seeds I make, Im going to keep trying to get better and better hybrids. Yes, some places (seedbanks/breeders), older and new are sort of leaving me behind in the "over-all" grand screme of things. While Im choosing to perfect 2-3 strains that will equal all other 12/12 strains, but not offer 30-40 different hybrids claiming they are all 'stable" and Im sure wonderful tasting, and every thing else good about it. I really am intrigued with BOGs Sour Bubble, and Ive decided Im going to work extensively with that for now. Lets see how things go, and Im planning new upgrades to Master Low (hopefully by adding Pine Tar Kush Male to the mix), and S_a_H will hopefully be working with bettering a newer version of Power Stout. So there I said it, I hope no one steals my strains (heh, heh...private joke!!). Im starting an entire new Sourbubbleryder grow to see if Ive locked in auto-flowering or not. Updates will be starting very soon.

SatoriSOG · 03-14-2009, 02:35 AM

keep us updated on this mdanzig, i've been lurking and reading about your sbryder for a while now :]

keep up the good work, my buddy says he loves his bluestreak

Rose56 · 03-14-2009, 03:36 AM

Having grown some of your SBR I have to say this is an excellent strain that so far has put any other AF's I tried to shame. You don't need a zillion okay strains one or two of perfection is more then enough.

FirstTracks · 03-14-2009, 03:41 AM

nice to see one more breeder actually doing it the right way

good luck with the project MD! I'll be following along

03-14-2009, 08:36 PM

I cannot disbute everyone must meet there moment of truth, sometimes you gotta dig deep when problems come near, don't fear....things come sevear for everyone everywhere~ MasterLow couldn't have been anybetter Mdanzig without your genetics my feminized outdoor project would never been have moving....you are already a legend in my eyes, Peace.

canned abyss1 · 03-14-2009, 10:48 PM

It seems like that is probably the best way to go, it is better to have a few top quality strains then a bunch of mediocre ones. I have personally never tried any of your gear but from what I have seen in pix and read in posts you definitely put out top notch products. Good luck.

JamieShoes · 03-14-2009, 10:50 PM

I think thats great that youre going to trying out AFing more strains... like you say, see if you got it locked in. I'm sure there can be no disputing the quality of the products already in your line, but trying new things always helps keep motivation going (with anything, I mean). I'm always interested in reading about your current strains and I look forward to hearing about and seeing your new crosses just as much :smile:

best wishes
j

*mr.mike* · 03-14-2009, 11:01 PM

I got some really great masterlow around the beginning of 2007, it was what turned me on to autoflowers, and the benchmark for all the ones I try. If you could make them all as good as that, cool. Maybe Masterlow 2.0 would be better.

Powerstout is F all rock solid. There aren't afs out there with the same great profile, or yield.

I haven't been able to try bluestreak, and I wait for this new one to get out, but I'm patient.

It's good to be dissatisfied with your product. It's kind of like a maturing of thought and process.... a renewed strive for quality. Cool.

I hope you'll keep masterlow "short" though.

I don't think hybrids or F1s is the way... unless you need excuses for what you're selling. About people stealing your strains... it's amazing how fast people start saying they were doing the same thing THE DAY AFTER you "out" your current projects.

Nah, no complaints here.

**S_a_H** · 03-14-2009, 11:35 PM

The first and most basic plan is just to get the stockpile of PowerStout seeds built up.

After that because it has been so long since I ran any I am going to do a couple seed runs and see if I can spot a more impressive male and female to use.

S_a_H

FirstTracks · 03-15-2009, 03:54 AM

I think one thing I'd really like to see from a reliable breeder is an AF strain that is bred for 2 distinct phenos, 'tall big yielder' and 'short compact', and then bred into stable offspring which will hold true.

you see, sometimes I'd like an AF just for its quick finishing, other times, the low profile is what I'm after. There's always the option of stunting growth on my own, but the two distinct lines would be of great interest to me, especially if they were of comparable final quality

03-14-2009, 02:30 AM	#1
mdanzig Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: North Long Beach Posts: 1,120	Sourbubbleryder The moment of truth. Well, since Im becoming ever more increasingly unhappy with the final product of the seeds I make, Im going to keep trying to get better and better hybrids. Yes, some places (seedbanks/breeders), older and new are sort of leaving me behind in the "over-all" grand screme of things. While Im choosing to perfect 2-3 strains that will equal all other 12/12 strains, but not offer 30-40 different hybrids claiming they are all 'stable" and Im sure wonderful tasting, and every thing else good about it. I really am intrigued with BOGs Sour Bubble, and Ive decided Im going to work extensively with that for now. Lets see how things go, and Im planning new upgrades to Master Low (hopefully by adding Pine Tar Kush Male to the mix), and S_a_H will hopefully be working with bettering a newer version of Power Stout. So there I said it, I hope no one steals my strains (heh, heh...private joke!!). Im starting an entire new Sourbubbleryder grow to see if Ive locked in auto-flowering or not. Updates will be starting very soon. __________________
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03-14-2009, 02:35 AM	#2
SatoriSOG Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 196	keep us updated on this mdanzig, i've been lurking and reading about your sbryder for a while now :] keep up the good work, my buddy says he loves his bluestreak
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Rose56 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 578	Having grown some of your SBR I have to say this is an excellent strain that so far has put any other AF's I tried to shame. You don't need a zillion okay strains one or two of perfection is more then enough. __________________ Join the Autoflower Social Group, and start a love affair with Autoflowering! https://www.icmag.com/ic/group.php?groupid=29
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FirstTracks natural medicator Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,128	nice to see one more breeder actually doing it the right way good luck with the project MD! I'll be following along __________________ 600w organic grow
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03-14-2009, 08:36 PM	#5
SevenSeeds Guest Posts: n/a	I cannot disbute everyone must meet there moment of truth, sometimes you gotta dig deep when problems come near, don't fear....things come sevear for everyone everywhere~ MasterLow couldn't have been anybetter Mdanzig without your genetics my feminized outdoor project would never been have moving....you are already a legend in my eyes, Peace.
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canned abyss1 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Black Creek Gardens Posts: 717	It seems like that is probably the best way to go, it is better to have a few top quality strains then a bunch of mediocre ones. I have personally never tried any of your gear but from what I have seen in pix and read in posts you definitely put out top notch products. Good luck. __________________ Black Creek Gardens Along came a Spyder. https://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=112296 Spyderweb (purple webbed leaf autoflower) https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=225899
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JamieShoes Father, Carer, Toker, Sharer Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,280	I think thats great that youre going to trying out AFing more strains... like you say, see if you got it locked in. I'm sure there can be no disputing the quality of the products already in your line, but trying new things always helps keep motivation going (with anything, I mean). I'm always interested in reading about your current strains and I look forward to hearing about and seeing your new crosses just as much :smile: best wishes j __________________ test grows and other stories
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03-14-2009, 11:01 PM	#8
mr.mike Cosmic and Eternal Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 282	I got some really great masterlow around the beginning of 2007, it was what turned me on to autoflowers, and the benchmark for all the ones I try. If you could make them all as good as that, cool. Maybe Masterlow 2.0 would be better. Powerstout is F all rock solid. There aren't afs out there with the same great profile, or yield. I haven't been able to try bluestreak, and I wait for this new one to get out, but I'm patient. It's good to be dissatisfied with your product. It's kind of like a maturing of thought and process.... a renewed strive for quality. Cool. I hope you'll keep masterlow "short" though. I don't think hybrids or F1s is the way... unless you need excuses for what you're selling. About people stealing your strains... it's amazing how fast people start saying they were doing the same thing THE DAY AFTER you "out" your current projects. Nah, no complaints here.
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03-15-2009, 03:54 AM	#10
FirstTracks natural medicator Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,128	I think one thing I'd really like to see from a reliable breeder is an AF strain that is bred for 2 distinct phenos, 'tall big yielder' and 'short compact', and then bred into stable offspring which will hold true. you see, sometimes I'd like an AF just for its quick finishing, other times, the low profile is what I'm after. There's always the option of stunting growth on my own, but the two distinct lines would be of great interest to me, especially if they were of comparable final quality __________________ 600w organic grow
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