[Dutchgrown]

This is something that I just posted on some other cannabis related site that still entertains this entity:



Well, well...what a way to grace your site, but is necessary to do so in this manner, as the thread I would have addressed the lies and derrogatory statements made here by your new member *********** has been closed.

But...since he has seen fit to draw me into his post here...I am here to

SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT!

As a previous mod and current Admin at IC Mag, this member attempted to wreak havok on our site, I would be remiss by not reiterating what OHenry has already posted as well as responding to the quote below:

Originally Posted by ***********

Hello Ohenry,

You should be ashamed of yourself, you came on this site to troll me? It funny someone appeared here from the same people that stole 1,500 seeds from me, 2 ounces for their cannabis cup, a 600 dollar entry fee with 14+ grams bubblehash and kif for Dipsy Nirvana as a thank you for featuring me on his auction. I began posting on the internet in March and developed a great fanbase, hence many seed requests so I proceeded accordingly and prepared to launch some strains on that site only to have my connection shut off on the forum after they recieved my package.

I spent 45 dollars sending Dipsy Nirvana an overnight with the above referenced items then 2 days later they begin with this nonsense first by banning me, then deleting all my threads on the site now attempting to give me a bad reputation.

Your ring leader has not just jerked me Ohenry, but other members here who are not as nice as I and will be catching up with your petty theif of a leader. Did you know Ohenry Dipsy Nirvana asked me to send him 1 kilo of seeds (80,000-100,000) per strain in my collection without meeting me or discussing prices. He gave me a bad feeling, so then I only sent 150 10 packs, only to get robbed, called someone else, banned, now this?

The worst I could do to Gypsy and that Dutch is not consider them my brother or sister in the eyes of Jah. They are not a part of my life, niether are you. When you approached me on that site you asked me to take time out of my life to write your magazine an article which I did, and this is how you repay me? ooooohhhhhhenry Shame on you as well.



Besides, maybe if you stay here you'll learn some etiquette and good manners Perhaps it would be more prudent if you go to your sad life picking fights on the internet. Window warrior
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NO seeds were received by *********** at Seedbay. A box was received a few days after we had sussed out this vermin on IC Mag and so the box was never opened....simply taken back to the post and send via FedEx 'return to sender'. This is fact because I am the one who both received the box AND sent it back...with Gypsy's concurrence. So, if there is a teddybear inside I would have no idea (Muffinman how did you know there was a teddybear inside...the box was never opened....PERIOD.) Whatever the contents of the box was...it was returned. It was a very small box and unlikely to have contained what *** said was in it. Maybe we might find out if it is returned back to us and then we can open it to see what is actually inside this package...we will fully document and photograph what comes in this package should it be returned again to us and the contents will be shown on IC Mag.

*** is stating that he included some herbal cannabis in this package as an entry to the upcoming 420 Grower's Cup, why would he send it here to the UK when it is quite obvious if you were to read the 420 Grower's Cup Forum on IC Mag that all entries are to be posted to Amsterdam. A $600 entry fee? There is NO entry fee required to enter the growers cup unless you are a 'BONA FIDE SEED CO who currently has their seeds available for purchase, e.g. Serious Seeds, Paradise Seeds, Green House Seeds, Bog Seeds, Reservoir Seeds, THSeeds, The Flying Dutchmen, Sagarmatha, Dutch Passion, BC Bud Depot, Reeferman Seeds, etc.etc.etc. Very presumptuous for *** to place him/herself in the same category as real breeders. The entry fee amount for breeders is clearly posted and is only 350 euros which covers up to three entries: 1 Indica, 1 Sativa, & 1 Hash.

***, you are attempting to get folks here to believe that 2 days after this 'box' was received that only then we banned you.....WRONG....Admin had been watching your activity/posts on IC Mag for awhile. We gave you enough rope on IC Mag to hang yourself, and you did just that. We have gotten to know you (FF) quite well through all your sock puppets, so you are kinda no longer a challege to recognize. Plus, we have our own proof (as Admin of this site here knows what I am referring to) that all nics you have conjured up ALL relate back to FF.

As for this lie.....

Gypsy asked me to send him 1 kilo of seeds (80,000-100,000) per strain in my collection without meeting me or discussing prices.

Gypsy was constantly harrassed by this *** entity through chat and pm's on IC Mag, the same as I was, to take on his seeds and sell them through Seedbay.com. Eventually Gypsy said that he could send a couple of packs of each variety to be test grown by independent neutral growers that would report and photograph the growth of these seeds into plants on the Seedbay Test Grow sub-forum. So this is what we expected to receive from ***/FF/whatever. I also have a PM from *** where I replied to his query of sending a 'few' packs in....I will dig that PM up for your site Admin if asked.

***, you must be hallucinating...in a bad sort of way! Those numbers you mention not only were never discussed (utter lies on your part) but any breeder who sells seeds to Gypsy, or any other seed bank, can verify....that sort of quantity is not normally purchased from 'anyone'.... (unless you happen to be as good as Sam the Skunkman), surely not from a 'here I am folks, best breeder in the world and have been around years to prove I'm the best sort of fellow' ...so you are really making yourself look more than rather STUPID. From what it looks like to us, you are just trying to make Gypsy and myself look bad by making these untrue and spurious claims in some futile attempt at tarnishing the character and reputation of a truly genuine and trusted member of the growing cannabis community.

Originally Posted by ***********

The worst I could do to Gypsy and that Dutch is not consider them my brother or sister in the eyes of Jah.

Really???? ***/FF sent me a PM on Cannabis World, and also one on IC Mag....the one on IC Mag shows how much he cares for me in the eyes of Jah, 'the only way I'd have something to do with you is if you weren't breathing any longer'....and I cleaned that quote up a bit....anyone seeing through this BS yet?

We don't need to try and give this entity a bad reputation, it (the entity) is doing that on their own quite well.

I don't come here lightly to flame, put down, or you might think troll someone, I DO come here in the best interests of those that wish to know the truth in this matter.

It is important for the community to know about this charlatan.

char·la·tan ( P ) Pronunciation Key (shärl-tn)
n.
A person who makes elaborate, fraudulent, and often voluble claims to skill or knowledge; a quack or fraud.

dg

[GreatLakes THC]

Well said... Enough said.

Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

GreatLakes THC

[Babbabud]

as of late ive seen a few ppl censored or banned ... and then a few other ppl who have closed there accounts and now show up as guest .... admin has not explained any of this too us .... such as HOG loosing his moderator status ? So I just sort of wonder why it is that you feel like you need bother explain this too us .... hasnt this site had enough of the ff drama ? I dont get it ? dont want to get on anyones bad side just curious ? PEACE
Nam-myoho-renge-kyo

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Well.......it is up to us that run and administer this site to try and loose those entities that we see as being negative or disruptive to the membership here.......For it is our duty to jettison those that might attempt some sort of confidence trickery of sorts...

If we did not make some kind of effort towards irradicating such agent provocateurs amongst us, many would deem us culpably irresponsible....

[Sleepy]

You mean....someone misrepresented themselves on the internet!?!?

keep weedin him out.

He WILL get his.

[Dutchgrown]

Originally Posted by Babbabud

as of late ive seen a few ppl censored or banned ... and then a few other ppl who have closed there accounts and now show up as guest .... admin has not explained any of this too us

Nor do we have to, and in the best interest of our members, sometimes we do and sometimes we don't....it is our call to make.

Originally Posted by Babbabud

.... such as HOG loosing his moderator status ?

It would be entirely inappropriate to comment on the voluntary or involuntary change of status to any of the site's Mod's...unless they have breached the site's rules and are banned (such as FF), then we might choose (in the best interest of our members) to post such info.

Originally Posted by Babbabud

So I just sort of wonder why it is that you feel like you need bother explain this too us .... hasnt this site had enough of the ff drama ?

When FF continually returns to this site as another entity, fooling our members here....then YES, it is incumbent upon Admin to make others aware....so far FF has resurfaced with at least 20 different user names and I would never wish to see our members get suckered again by the same fox, just wearing different fur this time.

dg

[Babbabud]

thanks

PunkferPunk or FuglyFem- if they are the same entity are terrible liars.Anyone with a brain can see right through the Bullshit.And the only ones that "believe" whats being said, in there heads know its not true, they r just trying to fan the flames cuz they got a problem with GN n have no balls themselves.I think this SHOULD have been brought up by DG so that when someone from the IC family sees this slander they can say something(cuz we @ IC dont get down like that)lol :wink: ...Nobody would rip off a wanna be seed crosser(not even a breeder) for unproven and probably bag seed. ..I just think its kinda sad that this persons whole life right now,is about talkin trash about someone else and trying to steal from anyone gullable enough to trust him- and that there r other sites that let him spew that shit and dont take any action against him /her/ it..?.Its cuz they know GN is the #1 go to guy for beans and it makes them jealous,its a shady biz sometimes..Karma is beautiful and it will find Puke4puke/fruityf$@k sooner or later.And it takes a real man 2 threaten someone else(NOT!) by saying they r gonna have someone else pay a visit,cuz there not man enough to take there actions into there own hands, SISSY- . ok im done bitchin. .DWW

I'm standing by Gypsy and DG all the way on this one. I don't know why FF wants to harass us over his poor lapse in behaviour. FF we are not the cause of your demise, You got found out, live with it! Allow us to move on and you do the same too, huh!!!

[Harry Gypsna]

Cant we have a list of those names...lol,