[cocogroguy]

Originally Posted by toohighmf

Revive is mostly Nitrogen in 3 forms, mg, fe, and zinc. I use it with
thefollowing veg / bloom reg:
Veg:
GH flora 3 part or botanicare PBP grow. (done with floranova) too many precipitates, found a 2 oz ball of phosphate rock in the last bottle and it's a pain in the ass to mix, store, dilute, etc.)
Superthrive
Calmg+
Roots excelurater
Revive
Liquid karma or floralicious plus
H2o2 every 36 hours

Bloom:

GH Lucas formula or DM gold base
Superthrive
10-15ml Botanicare calmg+
Additional Epsom salts
1ml per gallon Revive
Big bud at 250 ppm
Heavy doses of hydrogen peroxide
Liquid karma or floralicious plus or H1/F1 when I got it for free and I do prefer it over nectar or karma. Just too many bottles!
I finish with shooting powder or anything close to 0-50-30.
Flush 2+ weeks w carbo 1 week, the rest of the time just RO till the fans fall off and the plant has metabolized everything it has stored and there is no food source left.

10 to 15 ml of calmag per gallon? and then more epsom for mag? and ya i have always finished with just powdered KB...its like 2-45-36(est).

Ive heard good things about the DM gold line base too....no experience tho. I personally have never done good with GH's three part but have some.....FN works for me. I pre mix it with water to help it mix with my res.

mista ... I'm calling stoner moment ... You quoted GTHC to look like what they said was Intended for me ... HeHeHe

toohigh The last line in your last post sums AN up nicely bro ... even though we don't mesh well for the most part ... I have to say ... you call it like you see it ... from experience (not just concerning AN) and I appreciate that ...

[cocogroguy]

Originally Posted by dongle69

Voodoo = Botanicare Hydroguard (now called Aqua Shield).

Now this i wanna see some backup to.....please

Originally Posted by cocogroguy

Now this i wanna see some backup to.....please

Check the ingredients of both...
Main difference is $200/gal for Voodoo, $35/gal for Hydroguard.

[mistaman]

yes hydroguard contains some of the same bacilus and paenbacilus strains as voodoo juice but I'm sure there's much more to it than that. right now i'm using hydroguard somewhat regularly whereas i use tarantula only the couple times i inoculate with piranha
im glad i got my stockload of hydroguard cause when it comes back as aqua guard it will be more expensive. buy up if you like it folks

Originally Posted by mistaman

yes hydroguard contains some of the same bacilus and paenbacilus strains as voodoo juice but I'm sure there's much more to it than that.

Exactly what AN wants you to think...
No one else has it......our scientists are the only ones....blab blah bullshit!
If their prices were fair and they didn't lie so much, I could understand people buying their products.
But so many other companies have the same products for cheaper that are more stable.
Nothing wrong with making $$ but damn AN, c'mon already.

[toohighmf]

Originally Posted by dongle69

Voodoo = Botanicare Hydroguard (now called Aqua Shield).

Baccilicus thurngusis is not voodoo, it's more like piranha.
Cocogrowguy, yes I use all that and don't forget about the 7% of mg in Big Bud either!!!! Idont think blooming plants can get enough of it!

Also for the record, I don't come the AN section to dog them, but I do know more about the products than most and have troublehot for over 5000 AN users via the old AN forums and over 600 retail stores. I have more experience and knowledge of the company's shady practices. These are things you should know before spending countless dollars and hours trying to improve your quality and yields.. I hate AN, but know it like the back of my hand! I'm just trying to help you guys grow better pot with the AN product that your inquiring upon. AN are a bunch of copycat marketing genius' that could come out with a program called the 5+ program and people will flock to it. A sucker is born every day and they have the whistle that attracts them. Did you know the label and bottle cost more than the content in voodoo juice? Did you know scorpion juice is aspirin suspended in water? Colossal bud blast is Fish and kelp? Well you do now! They are the shadiest bastards in this business. Do you really want to give these thieves and Con artists your money?

Originally Posted by toohighmf

Baccilicus thurngusis is not voodoo, it's more like piranha.

Bacillus subtilis is Voodoo, though, same as Hydroguard.

[toohighmf]

dongle... Prove it. Show me the ingredients of voodoo.. Are they listed on the new bottle? It is not a bacillicus strain or form of trichoderma. It is an enzymatic innoculant. Proteins..

It is all listed on their stupid ass web site:
https://www.advancednutrients.com/lan..._bacteria.html