[mountain kind]

so toohigh which 6 products do you like

He didn't say he liked them ... he said 6 of 60 served a purpose ...

[mistaman]

cool your jets folks!!!! for some reason i thought the people in the AN section would be more supportive of the new schedules being cheaper and more simple. I only use some AN stuff but never a full schedule but I might try one when some of this stuff comes out. A lot of it seems like it got combined together to make a more practical schedule.

you start with a base nute like sensi a+b or an 3 part at 4ml per l

then there is 4 levels..level one is hobbyist which is:
voodoo juice week 1 and 2 of flowering at 2ml/l
big bud week 2-4 of flowering at 2ml/l
b52 3-5 @ 2ml/l
overdrive 5 and 6 @ 2ml/l

Guaranteed minimum of
11% Bigger Yield over
any competitor’s
nutrients

expert level adds:
piranha 1g/l week 1 and 2
bud candy 1-6 2ml/l
final phase week 7 2ml/l

Guaranteed minimum of
19% Bigger Yield over
any competitor’s
nutrients

professional:
tarantula 1g/l week 1 and 2
nirvana 2ml/l 3-6
sensizym 2ml/l 1-6
Guaranteed minimum of
28% Bigger Yield over
any competitor’s
nutrients

"grandmaster":
bud ignitor 2ml/l 1&2
rhino skin 2ml/l 1-6
bud x factor 2ml/l 1-6

Guaranteed minimum of
37% Bigger Yield over
any competitor’s
nutrients

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[mr noodles]

ive been pwned in the past and felled all over for the an line...

it was good but not for the $

the best products and maybe the only who worth to use

ph +
ph- i have these since 5 years and nothing is stronger than this....don't let this shit touch your skin, other ph-,+ are water in comparison . some people told me that all the other batch where diluted at 50-60 %

big bud is very good , if something better told me

overdrive , this is making a difference for real .


now i use pbp + liquid karma + big bud and overdrive + molasses . so far this mix is the best i ever used . grow since 1985 .

i recently i throw the final phase in the garbage after 5 years , ive used it 2 time and my buds had an horrific taste in soilless ( pro mix) i did a comparative test and final phase ad something else instead of flushing even after 1 week of pure ph'ed water .worthless shit if you ask me .

the voodoo is really a biological septic tank product diluted at 80 $ in fact a liter/quart of voodoo at 80 $ worth less than 2 $

the tarantula is good but is there any other product that is the same at 1/2 the price ? its almost the same as septic tank stuff in powder

the clone gel is like all the other good quality product, never seen any diff...

[cocogroguy]

Originally Posted by mr noodles

ive been pwned in the past and felled all over for the an line...

it was good but not for the $

the best products and maybe the only who worth to use

ph +
ph- i have these since 5 years and nothing is stronger than this....don't let this shit touch your skin, other ph-,+ are water in comparison . some people told me that all the other batch where diluted at 50-60 %

big bud is very good , if something better told me

overdrive , this is making a difference for real .

I totally agree with you on the PH adj! I bought a PH up bottle(liter) well over a year ago.....spilled some here and there,so true about the causticity of this stuff....it eats ur skin off lol, and I still have over half the bottle left. I'll run through a gallon of GH down/up way b4 that liter is used of AN.

I also wanna hear THMF's on what 6 or so products he believes are good. I am doing a run with BB,overdrive, and Carbo(all powdered) for the 1st time. Only other AN products i ever used is the PH. I chose BB becasuse it was recomended alot by growers and the ratios are what i was looking for. I've used Koolbloom for years(powder) for late flowering buy always wanted a product with a high K amount for the "structure" building phase of budset......BB is the only product i've seen to date(besides a high K organic seaweed from technaflora) with that kick of K. I also went with carboload cuz im not trying to have molasses in my tanks.......and overdrive to substitute for the Koolbloom(this run). Im at day 43 and using OD now for two weeks until a one week flush.....chopping at 63-65.

I'll be honest....at the prices of the AN stuff it better help yield.....cuz i can rock an entire crop on just Floranova, CM+, and Koolbloom for CHEAP! and get great results.

[B00st3d]

GH Flora Series or FloraNova puts AN stuff to shame which has been proven. I switched to AN this most recent grow from flora series and wish I never had. Using basically the same setup and regimen Im gettin worse results with AN. I'll never buy or use their products again personally. If you wanna throw your money away and decrease the quality of your plants then go right ahead. Enjoy.

Toohighmf,

I believe your just another hater of AN products, i've used all different types of nutes from different companies and I've always gone back to AN. I don't buy into gimmicks toohighmf, I buy into RESULTS! You must being doing something wrong if you aren't getting better results using AN products. But hey whatever works for ya i guess keep doing it.

I do agree not all their products are worth buying but the ones that are worth it, I believe they're the best on the market!

BOOst3d, funny you say that cause when i switched over from AN to GH my yeild went from a lb and a half, to a lb. I lost of third of my normal yeild! Does that mean AN puts GH to shame? I believe you and me both need to use the products for more than one harvest before we start claiming which is better.

LONG LIVE AN!!!!

9 two gallon pots (in coco, this could be the difference...) under a 1000 w HPS (yeilded 26 1/2 ounces dry!!!!!)

[indifferent]

Originally Posted by toohighmf

are you f$&@n serious? They make feed chart with 14 additives and you don't need a ph or tds meter. If you believe that after 8 years of screwed up charts and frying millions of crops world wide, making the most inconsistant batches on earth, reformulating half their line, 4 calculator revisions later.... Your actually going to believe a single word Mike Straumeitis says about anything? That is the biggest crock o shite I ever heard!
Know what 2+ really means? 2+ thousand dollars down the drain.. Good luck with that one!
Did they ever come out with that new product SNAKE OIL???? Oh yeah, it's called the 2+ line! Roflmao!!!! Don't beleive the hype. They make about 6 products out of 60 that actually serve a pourpose... Most of them are blatant rip offs of other products. That's sad!

Great post, AN are fleecing people, 14 additives is retarded, overpriced, overdiluted, over complicated, underwhelming results. You can get equally good crops using other nutes for a fifth the price of what the full AN schedule will cost.

Also can someone actually give actuall proof over this rumor about voodoo juice? I've heard it was septic cleaner as well but I believe it just a bunch of BS from the haters, unless someone here can actually prove it??? I mean why would they sell diluted septic cleaner and then advertise it as 100% organic? Don't you think some truth and not just rumors would come from this?

You keep going back to the hate G THC ... If people have used AN and moved on they aren't haters ... they're disgruntled former customers ... and there seems to be a lot of us ... we all can't be liars. I'm seeing a trend ... AN & AN people claim to have used/tested everything else but don't seem to have Proof of it (like someones claim about The Haters) like a side by side grow ... Those yield increase percentages are BULLSHIT ... prove me wrong.