[stoney419]

Originally Posted by toohighmf

Liquid karma, superthrive, and DM gold kick anus!

so how much super thrive and LK you add per gal.

[toohighmf]

1 drop of superthrive per gal. 5-10ml of LK per gal.

1 Drop = 5 drips? I never quite got The Vitamin Institutes application rate for ST.

[DIGITALHIPPY]

Originally Posted by toohighmf

are you f$&@n serious? They make feed chart with 14 additives and you don't need a ph or tds meter. If you believe that after 8 years of screwed up charts and frying millions of crops world wide, making the most inconsistant batches on earth, reformulating half their line, 4 calculator revisions later.... Your actually going to believe a single word Mike Straumeitis says about anything? That is the biggest crock o shite I ever heard!
Know what 2+ really means? 2+ thousand dollars down the drain.. Good luck with that one!
Did they ever come out with that new product SNAKE OIL???? Oh yeah, it's called the 2+ line! Roflmao!!!! Don't beleive the hype. They make about 6 products out of 60 that actually serve a pourpose... Most of them are blatant rip offs of other products. That's sad!

your so right, for years the formulas change concintrations flux etc. but thats where the noob and the pros stand out, generaly i dont blindly follow there sugestions, unfortunately my feed chart is usualy based off years of exp. and trials wth it. if u add less (with all companies) then what they sugest u can always add more. i add, ppm check, then re-apply if necassary, usualy buying big bottles going frugal so it lasts along time big bottles r good because after the first res i generaly know whats up.

its frustrating following the light feeding (1200 peak) and getting 3400ppm res(4.1 ec?)...
sounds like u left with a grudge toohighmf, but its not my place to judge anyone. sitting next to my friend i point at ur posts an d tell him hes outlandish with statements but dam right.

[Advanced]

Originally Posted by toohighmf

Care to elaborate how a foliar of scorp is going to increase trichrome production when you stop using it 3-4. Weeks before trichromes even form?

You don't have trichomes on your plants after 5 weeks of flowering ?

I do unless I'm growing a hemp crop or a really long flowering sativa, with or without Scorpion Juice.

There are not very things that a plant can do to protect itself from a real or simulated attack. Cannabis protects itself from insects and UV by increasing resin production. It only takes a few days for the immune response to kick in but it lasts for a while after the threat is removed.

Scorpion Juice works on a few levels, salicylic acid works on a DNA level by activating the Bik1 gene, which is normally dormant, and causes increased production of essential oils. Another proprietary component of Scorpion Juice works on an extra-cellular level to produce the same effect.

Another benefit of using foliar applications of salicylic acid is that it is proven to stimulate chlorophyll production on plants that are grown at higher than optimum temperatures. That means that if your plants are heat stressed, they will continue to grow and will do better than plants that were not treated with salicylic acid. The report that I read, the test was done at 38C

[Advanced]

Scorpion Juice can be added to your substrate but THMF is correct in saying not to add it to your reservoir . It contains a non-ionic surfactant that will foam up it aerated.

If you mix in buckets or mix up your reservoir and use it all at once you can add it to your substrate at a rate of 10ml per liter, once a week.

[toohighmf]

[quote=Advanced;2187778]You don't have trichomes on your plants after 5 weeks of flowering ?

I do unless I'm growing a hemp crop or a really long flowering sativa, with or without Scorpion Juice.

There are not very things that a plant can do to protect itself from a real or simulated attack. Cannabis protects itself from insects and UV by increasing resin production. It only takes a few days for the immune response to kick in but it lasts for a while after the threat is removed.

Scorpion Juice works on a few levels, salicylic acid works on a DNA level by activating the Bik1 gene, which is normally dormant, and causes increased production of essential oils. Another proprietary component of Scorpion Juice works on an extra-cellular level to produce the same effect.

Advanced, I have trichs on most varieties by day 20. Why would I ever simulate an attack on the immune system and stress a plant as it's already stressing, producing essential oils. Are you implying that scorpion juice should be used up to week 4-5??? You would foliar that far in bloom on your average 8 weeker?

I believe I pm'ed you but you probably don't have enough posts to read it...

For a company that spends so much time trying to loose their pot growing image, why do you sponsor weeds and pineapple xpress, (which was so lame by the way) and why are you on this forum???? Obama give AN a new hope or something? Tell little Robby toohighmf said "your overstepping yer bounds, kid!" and slap the desk really hard like he said and did to me when he couldn't handle being fair or answering any technical questions. I feel sorry for you! You work for slimeballs! I hope they pay you well! I made a good living with advanced! Not nearly as much as they made off me!

Another benefit of using foliar applications of salicylic acid is that it is proven to stimulate chlorophyll production on plants that are grown at higher than optimum temperatures. That means that if your plants are heat stressed, they will continue to grow and will do better than plants that were not treated with salicylic acid. The report that I read, the test was done at 38C

Good catch thmf ... dude needs to buy a banner ad or at least become an IC Supporter (pay IC some of that dough you know you make having a Forum here which was made because you couldn't handle your members or the legal aspect of running a site of your own) IMHO as well as keeping his facts straight. At least arjan has franco. In all honesty I was HOPING IC would have done away with this Forum by now ... The AN users have been assimilated ... this whole gig could be a subforum in the Hydro section. This is just the AN Forums 2 Sponsored by Gypsy ... I'm thinking a LARGE Donation to the IC 420 cup is in order.

[Mc__Nugget]

2 words Lucas Formula! ha, i love it that i can spend less than $50 for an entire crop and still pull down around a p every time from my 400. why even f with it?

[toohighmf]

I actually totally agree, but how can they if their products aren't marketed for cannabis cultivation. Yeah you know my mom uses it to grow her azaelias and tomatoes... If you ever worked at a hydroshop and get an old lady looking for a good organic fert for their tomatoes or flowers, show em a liter of PBP for $18 and they run! Imagine the stroke they would have pricing out iguana juice!