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GrüneErd · 11-14-2008, 01:26 AM

right Doobie? i love this method. it's THE easiest out there no matter what anyone says.

mine are in old prescription bottles my mom had, just modded the lids to hold the plants, with enough room to get them out with root-mass and all once rooted.
and here, my papaya at exactly ten days in water now:

its easier than when i was using a dome and rapid rooters, and faster too.
peace

Desiderata · 11-27-2008, 02:14 AM

When you transplant over to soil did you use a B1 Upstart, starter root stimulator, or like cap suggested, a wide spectrum fertilizer?

Pac-n-Puff said using a hormone caused faster root growth but slower plant growth.

I used this method before but can't find what I used to water them with when I transplanted my William Wonder BX2 clones.......not yet anyway.....I wrote it down somewhere....LOL

Desi........where's that tin hat?

GrüneErd · 12-12-2008, 06:37 PM

i just split and shaved the bottom of my clones' stems, dipped it into some clonex gel, and put em in the water.

when i put them in soil after the roots developed (nicely i might add) i soaked the soil with a 1/4 strength nute feeding, and they're growin at the same rate as any other plant. once their in the soil, just grow like usual.

i lost no clones and had ZERO wilting throughout the whole process. some clones had to feed off a lower leaf or two, and i just cut them off after they yellowed. maybe 3 of my clones used up a leaf. a stronger initial nute solution fixed the problem on the later clones.
peace

melvin2 · 01-02-2009, 06:21 PM

I haven't seen this asked anywhere but has anyone used this method like Caprichoso did only instead using finishing female buds? Say, you want (or need) to cut early or maybe you want to sample a branch, will putting the stems in water and the flowers in 12/12 light finish the ripening process?
Also, would this flush out nutrients?

Desiderata- My cuts go into soil enriched with worm castings and mushroom compost, and watered half strength with fish emulsion and seaweed (maybe just a drop of blackstrap molasses, but not much)

admiralcornport · 02-02-2009, 06:09 PM

Love it!

Thundurkel · 02-02-2009, 08:28 PM

So is there any difference using the bubble cloner I made?? I am using just plain water with airstones and have had great results!! no stress or yellowing ever really I've had it happen maybe once or twice since I've started using it but I love the quality of the clones it produces!!! So is there any reason you don't use a bubble cloner Cap??

Desiderata · 02-03-2009, 12:52 AM

Desiderata- My cuts go into soil enriched with worm castings and mushroom compost, and watered half strength with fish emulsion and seaweed (maybe just a drop of blackstrap molasses, but not much)[/quote]

Thanks Melvin,.....I read this a day late........I transplanted yesterday, a couple using this method, in about the same kinda mix with fish emulsions, Alaska & Neptune.......because with my last post the pro-mix with some cow manure 1-1-1 was not near enough to keep them sustained...........so I should be good to go with a more flavorful mix.

KaptKid · 02-04-2009, 07:09 AM

This has been a great read. Will try this next grow.

Thanks

junior_grower · 02-04-2009, 07:59 AM

well I am gonna try this out tonight

melvin2 · 02-05-2009, 06:11 PM

Now what I'm doing is:

when the roots are ready, I plant in very small plastic cups with holes in the bottoms, but, I keep them inside another cup that will hold all the water in. I water them heavily at first like overwatering. They have spent so much time in water that they don't like to be too dry at first.

All I feed them with now is seaweed solution until they are sort of hardened off and can stand to be in drier soil. The worm castings + shroom compost + seaweed feed them enough at first. I do this for 2 or 3 days then when they dry out enough I feed them with fish emulsion and seaweed. I don't water with molasses anymore because I started adding it to my soil mix.

I don't veg for very long, just til they are as tall as I want, usually between 3-6 inches of growth. Then they get transplanted into bigger pots and moved into the flower chamber. After this I stop feeding with fish emulsion to keep it out of the buds.

But, I'm also switching to a nutrient rich soil with bone meal, blood meal, greensand, and seaweed. Until I get it figured out, I'll only be giving them water. If they need something after that, I'll use a tea made with worm castings, bat guano, or whatever else I have around.

11-14-2008, 01:26 AM	#121
GrüneErd Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 284	right Doobie? i love this method. it's THE easiest out there no matter what anyone says. mine are in old prescription bottles my mom had, just modded the lids to hold the plants, with enough room to get them out with root-mass and all once rooted. and here, my papaya at exactly ten days in water now: its easier than when i was using a dome and rapid rooters, and faster too. peace
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11-27-2008, 02:14 AM	#122
Desiderata Bodhisattva of the Earth Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Cosmos Posts: 1,710	Question for anyone using this method. When you transplant over to soil did you use a B1 Upstart, starter root stimulator, or like cap suggested, a wide spectrum fertilizer? Pac-n-Puff said using a hormone caused faster root growth but slower plant growth. I used this method before but can't find what I used to water them with when I transplanted my William Wonder BX2 clones.......not yet anyway.....I wrote it down somewhere....LOL Desi........where's that tin hat? __________________ __________________ “Being happy doesn't mean everything is perfect. It means you have decided to see beyond the imperfections. "....TooFat.... "We need courage to become happy, to triumph over life’s trials, to help others, and to take action for peace and justice..." _________________ R.I.P Elemental
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12-12-2008, 06:37 PM	#123
GrüneErd Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 284	i just split and shaved the bottom of my clones' stems, dipped it into some clonex gel, and put em in the water. when i put them in soil after the roots developed (nicely i might add) i soaked the soil with a 1/4 strength nute feeding, and they're growin at the same rate as any other plant. once their in the soil, just grow like usual. i lost no clones and had ZERO wilting throughout the whole process. some clones had to feed off a lower leaf or two, and i just cut them off after they yellowed. maybe 3 of my clones used up a leaf. a stronger initial nute solution fixed the problem on the later clones. peace __________________ ______________________________ G I Y... Everybody Quit Trippin.
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01-02-2009, 06:21 PM	#124
melvin2 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 232	I haven't seen this asked anywhere but has anyone used this method like Caprichoso did only instead using finishing female buds? Say, you want (or need) to cut early or maybe you want to sample a branch, will putting the stems in water and the flowers in 12/12 light finish the ripening process? Also, would this flush out nutrients? Desiderata- My cuts go into soil enriched with worm castings and mushroom compost, and watered half strength with fish emulsion and seaweed (maybe just a drop of blackstrap molasses, but not much)
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02-02-2009, 06:09 PM	#125
admiralcornport Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: RI Mmp Posts: 736	Love it!
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02-02-2009, 08:28 PM	#126
Thundurkel Just Call me Urkle!! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: A tree house in Humboldt with a few gennys Posts: 3,855	So is there any difference using the bubble cloner I made?? I am using just plain water with airstones and have had great results!! no stress or yellowing ever really I've had it happen maybe once or twice since I've started using it but I love the quality of the clones it produces!!! So is there any reason you don't use a bubble cloner Cap?? __________________ THAT DUDE WHO PROVED EM WRONG!!! S/O DR.BUDGREENGENES The Vault: Truck's Genetics - Urkel x Crystal Trident, Dream Cross(Blue Dream x CT)... Bodhi Seeds- Yo Mama... Reservation Labs - Green Crack x SCK, Astili, Mucho Mango... Bobblebeans - Sour Bubble x Grape Skunk, Purps x Grape Skunk... ThunderKid's Collection Cherry Kush S1's, Lemon Larry(Swerves Cut) x Cherry Kush, Blowfish S1(only have 1 of em wish me luck)
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02-03-2009, 12:52 AM	#127
Desiderata Bodhisattva of the Earth Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Cosmos Posts: 1,710	Desiderata- My cuts go into soil enriched with worm castings and mushroom compost, and watered half strength with fish emulsion and seaweed (maybe just a drop of blackstrap molasses, but not much)[/quote] Thanks Melvin,.....I read this a day late........I transplanted yesterday, a couple using this method, in about the same kinda mix with fish emulsions, Alaska & Neptune.......because with my last post the pro-mix with some cow manure 1-1-1 was not near enough to keep them sustained...........so I should be good to go with a more flavorful mix. __________________ __________________ “Being happy doesn't mean everything is perfect. It means you have decided to see beyond the imperfections. "....TooFat.... "We need courage to become happy, to triumph over life’s trials, to help others, and to take action for peace and justice..." _________________ R.I.P Elemental
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02-04-2009, 07:09 AM	#128
KaptKid Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 32	This has been a great read. Will try this next grow. Thanks
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02-04-2009, 07:59 AM	#129
junior_grower Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 905	well I am gonna try this out tonight __________________ another successful out door year at 52*north, beat bugs, the wettest season in memory, and a early frost. Auto flowers have been a blast
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02-05-2009, 06:11 PM	#130
melvin2 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 232	Now what I'm doing is: when the roots are ready, I plant in very small plastic cups with holes in the bottoms, but, I keep them inside another cup that will hold all the water in. I water them heavily at first like overwatering. They have spent so much time in water that they don't like to be too dry at first. All I feed them with now is seaweed solution until they are sort of hardened off and can stand to be in drier soil. The worm castings + shroom compost + seaweed feed them enough at first. I do this for 2 or 3 days then when they dry out enough I feed them with fish emulsion and seaweed. I don't water with molasses anymore because I started adding it to my soil mix. I don't veg for very long, just til they are as tall as I want, usually between 3-6 inches of growth. Then they get transplanted into bigger pots and moved into the flower chamber. After this I stop feeding with fish emulsion to keep it out of the buds. But, I'm also switching to a nutrient rich soil with bone meal, blood meal, greensand, and seaweed. Until I get it figured out, I'll only be giving them water. If they need something after that, I'll use a tea made with worm castings, bat guano, or whatever else I have around.
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