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basilfarmer · 12-11-2008, 01:52 AM

A year ago I bought a small, very expensive bottle of this and some plants I have going at my friends house - in coco.

Everytime I use this 'miracle' potion th eleaves turn dark and the plants die.

Although not a fan of AN, I thought I would try this one product.

I thought the bottle might have been tampered with (turns out it was expired), so I made them send me a new bottle - a 2 month battle over the phone with the most ignorant people I have ever dealt with.

And the new bottle? Same thing.

I'm stumped.

When I use my other nutes without voodoo, I have no problem what so ever.

Not trying to be inflammatory but I hate advanced nutes even more now that I tried one of their products and dealt with their horribly ignorant customer service.

Has anyone else has this issue with voodoo? any idea what gives? I thought this stuff was supposed to be "amazing".

CornDog · 12-11-2008, 04:26 AM

I've used vodoo juice in dwc just fine, we would need to see more pic to be able to tell, how much are you adding per gallon???

Vodoo juice is benificial bacteria so the only thing that it can do is fluctuate ph have you tested the runoff ph in you coco grow. also how much are you adding per gallon???

I use 1-2ml per gallon in my dwc for the first 4 weeks and then i don't use it anymore, honestly for the price of this stuff i would not purchase it again after it runs out.

basilfarmer · 12-11-2008, 12:49 PM

thanks for your info - im barely adding any - 2ml per gallon

apparently advanced nutrients told dr hornby to stuff it, so he came out with his own benificial bacterial product thats now aded to promix - at least that is was I was told.

I would like to see if his stuff is sold on its own, i would add it to my coco

***does anyone notice a huge improvemnt as advertised with this stuff as expesive as liquid gold?

toohighmf · 12-12-2008, 12:43 AM

use half as much gold as you would any other 2 part so yeah I think gold is worth the investment if you know what your doing. I dont see how dead microbes kill plants. What color is your voodoo? I used to work for those cocksuckers and and whenever you read a sticker that says "new and improved!" it means they chinced out on something to make more money. EVERY TIME! I still use some AN products but am slowly weeding them out as I finish of a SKid of it from my old shop. I remember when people thought $69 a liter was ridiculous. from the time I started til I quit I watched the price increase 43%.... GREED! + you gotta pay to be in Weeds and Pineapple express...

basilfarmer · 12-13-2008, 04:57 AM

thanks toohighmf

can't agree with you more about those bastards - all the grow shops around here refuse to carry their products because hey are such fuckers

anyway, the 'new and improved' vodoo is yellow, i could probably use it as weed killer.

the last bottle was greenish and smelled like chemicals

did you notice the 'huge and wonderful' improvement using this stuff?
has anyone had the 'miraculous' results they speak of?

frankly, I have decided I dont need them, I bet a person in the know with fertiizer chemistry could make all their own stuff for 1/1000th the cost ....but instead I am just going with other companies and getting good results, since i am so small time

ps you said dead microbes? if they are dead, how can they do anything? i thought they would have to be alive.

12-18-2008, 08:01 PM

i would not use it in coco. coco is full of the stuff in voodoo from what i hear.

zolar · 12-20-2008, 03:02 PM

coco is finicky about excess nutes i had trouble with it salts and residue buildup happened fast i went back to soil compost and pearlite

if you really want cheap veg cycle nutes look up a urine as fertilizer thread and take vitamins 3-8 hours before you pee in your fert concentrate jar dilute it a lot and don't foliar feed

two other cheap substitutes for expensive goodies

citric acid powder [canning section whole foods places]
citric acid is a beneficial catalyst just add some to your water [good PH down too] improves chemical uptake

molasses put a couple tablespoons in hot water at least a quart helps carbohydrate load in bud cycle also adds sulfur
[blackstrap molasses is supposed to be best variety]

12-11-2008, 01:52 AM	#1
basilfarmer Diis aliter visum Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 637	why does voodoo juice keep killing my plants? A year ago I bought a small, very expensive bottle of this and some plants I have going at my friends house - in coco. Everytime I use this 'miracle' potion th eleaves turn dark and the plants die. Although not a fan of AN, I thought I would try this one product. I thought the bottle might have been tampered with (turns out it was expired), so I made them send me a new bottle - a 2 month battle over the phone with the most ignorant people I have ever dealt with. And the new bottle? Same thing. I'm stumped. When I use my other nutes without voodoo, I have no problem what so ever. Not trying to be inflammatory but I hate advanced nutes even more now that I tried one of their products and dealt with their horribly ignorant customer service. Has anyone else has this issue with voodoo? any idea what gives? I thought this stuff was supposed to be "amazing". __________________ . Here is an old news clip of Charles 'Reeferman' Scott when he was "Aryan of the year" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPms8...eature=related I am not 'outing' him. Everybody knows his name since his book interview in 2005 when he stupidly gave it. He has done everything to get into the public's eye including going on Jerry Springer and calling him a 'hook nosed kike' and the audience various other racial slurs. Real classy. This is a buyer beware, of poor character and poor seeds. .....reefs gear from last two years: diluted. overpriced. shitty germ rates/hermies. green beans. For $120 -$180 per 10 seeds you could do a hell of a lot better. This is $300 worth of seeds, can you guess the germ rate? https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/50...reen_seeds.JPG

12-11-2008, 12:49 PM	#3
basilfarmer Diis aliter visum Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 637	thanks for your info - im barely adding any - 2ml per gallon apparently advanced nutrients told dr hornby to stuff it, so he came out with his own benificial bacterial product thats now aded to promix - at least that is was I was told. I would like to see if his stuff is sold on its own, i would add it to my coco *does anyone notice a huge improvemnt as advertised with this stuff as expesive as liquid gold? __________________ . Here is an old news clip of Charles 'Reeferman' Scott when he was "Aryan of the year" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPms8...eature=related I am not 'outing' him. Everybody knows his name since his book interview in 2005 when he stupidly gave it.** He has done everything to get into the public's eye including going on Jerry Springer and calling him a 'hook nosed kike' and the audience various other racial slurs. Real classy. This is a buyer beware, of poor character and poor seeds. .....reefs gear from last two years: diluted. overpriced. shitty germ rates/hermies. green beans. For $120 -$180 per 10 seeds you could do a hell of a lot better. This is $300 worth of seeds, can you guess the germ rate? https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/50...reen_seeds.JPG Last edited by basilfarmer; 12-11-2008 at 12:51 PM..

12-13-2008, 04:57 AM	#5
basilfarmer Diis aliter visum Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 637	thanks toohighmf can't agree with you more about those bastards - all the grow shops around here refuse to carry their products because hey are such fuckers anyway, the 'new and improved' vodoo is yellow, i could probably use it as weed killer. the last bottle was greenish and smelled like chemicals did you notice the 'huge and wonderful' improvement using this stuff? has anyone had the 'miraculous' results they speak of? frankly, I have decided I dont need them, I bet a person in the know with fertiizer chemistry could make all their own stuff for 1/1000th the cost ....but instead I am just going with other companies and getting good results, since i am so small time ps you said dead microbes? if they are dead, how can they do anything? i thought they would have to be alive. __________________ . Here is an old news clip of Charles 'Reeferman' Scott when he was "Aryan of the year" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPms8...eature=related I am not 'outing' him. Everybody knows his name since his book interview in 2005 when he stupidly gave it. He has done everything to get into the public's eye including going on Jerry Springer and calling him a 'hook nosed kike' and the audience various other racial slurs. Real classy. This is a buyer beware, of poor character and poor seeds. .....reefs gear from last two years: diluted. overpriced. shitty germ rates/hermies. green beans. For $120 -$180 per 10 seeds you could do a hell of a lot better. This is $300 worth of seeds, can you guess the germ rate? https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/50...reen_seeds.JPG

12-11-2008, 04:26 AM	#2
CornDog Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36	I've used vodoo juice in dwc just fine, we would need to see more pic to be able to tell, how much are you adding per gallon??? Vodoo juice is benificial bacteria so the only thing that it can do is fluctuate ph have you tested the runoff ph in you coco grow. also how much are you adding per gallon??? I use 1-2ml per gallon in my dwc for the first 4 weeks and then i don't use it anymore, honestly for the price of this stuff i would not purchase it again after it runs out.

12-12-2008, 12:43 AM	#4
toohighmf Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: on a couch Posts: 2,340	use half as much gold as you would any other 2 part so yeah I think gold is worth the investment if you know what your doing. I dont see how dead microbes kill plants. What color is your voodoo? I used to work for those cocksuckers and and whenever you read a sticker that says "new and improved!" it means they chinced out on something to make more money. EVERY TIME! I still use some AN products but am slowly weeding them out as I finish of a SKid of it from my old shop. I remember when people thought $69 a liter was ridiculous. from the time I started til I quit I watched the price increase 43%.... GREED! + you gotta pay to be in Weeds and Pineapple express...

12-18-2008, 08:01 PM	#6
Kal-El Guest Posts: n/a	i would not use it in coco. coco is full of the stuff in voodoo from what i hear.

12-20-2008, 03:02 PM	#7
zolar Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pa,USA,earth Posts: 147	coco is finicky about excess nutes i had trouble with it salts and residue buildup happened fast i went back to soil compost and pearlite if you really want cheap veg cycle nutes look up a urine as fertilizer thread and take vitamins 3-8 hours before you pee in your fert concentrate jar dilute it a lot and don't foliar feed two other cheap substitutes for expensive goodies citric acid powder [canning section whole foods places] citric acid is a beneficial catalyst just add some to your water [good PH down too] improves chemical uptake molasses put a couple tablespoons in hot water at least a quart helps carbohydrate load in bud cycle also adds sulfur [blackstrap molasses is supposed to be best variety]