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Buffalo Bill · 02-04-2004, 08:21 PM

Cannadicto: I would also like to thank you for taking the time to respond. I agree with all that you have said except I must respectfully disagree with your statement, " Hep C is now near defeated". I believe that you may be misinformed as the experts all agree that there will be at least 3 times as many deaths in 10 years in the US than there were last year. Granted, they have made great strides in treatment and the combo treatment has been somewhat successful in clearing non Genotype A. 60% or so and 40% Genotype A success rate just doesn't sound "near defeated" to me, but that may just be me and my 40% Genotype A success rate! The doctors at the Texas Liver Institute seem to think that there will eventually be a protease inhibitor that will address and cure Hep C.

°Cannaddicto° · 02-04-2004, 11:04 PM

I didn't mean to say that Inteferon and ribavirin will be THE therapy,but they are witouth any doubt a great step in Hep C treating,as it's true that before this one there was no therapy for Hep...i'm also so optimist beacause at the Infective Deseases check up center where i go i know a lot of people wich have/had Hep C and after therapy had theyr RNA turning negative...so,i don't want to give unreal illusions to those who are Hep C positive but have a genotipe/body wich won't react to the therapy...
I also agree with you about the therapy side effects:inteferon affects people in different ways:some are tired all the time and feel a great "down" takin' it,someone other seem not to have any side effect but usually platalet would decrease so even if you don't feel it when you stop interferon you can see the difference...
Good luck to you my friends,i was trying to give you some iformation about Hep C i knew 'cause i thought they were important for you,happy to see you both take care of your self

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I do also

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§salud§

Hybrid Sole · 02-06-2004, 01:41 AM

Yo ucan always go to your local health food store and pick up some large empty capsules and make your own cannapills. They work great but the only drawback is - as with all edibles - that they take a long time to take effect and are easy to over do.

You might be couch bound for a while. I reccomend getting a vaporizer if you're worried about smoking.
HS

Tafari · 02-06-2004, 08:39 AM

Hey my WI buddy is here

Tafari

Buffalo Bill · 02-06-2004, 07:59 PM

Have any of you tried tinctures? If so, how did it work out. I believe that grain alcohol is used in making them. Anyone with liver disease should avoid alcohol at all costs, but I do believe that the small amount of alcohol in the caps is insignificant. I am just curious as to how effective they are.
HS, is that what you are referring to? Or is it something else? This inquiring mind would like to know....

Hybrid Sole · 02-08-2004, 01:47 AM

No tinctures are good as are vegetable oils or bud butter (check out www.aamc.com for more info)

Capsules are simply empty gel capsules that you can fill with herb and then swallow. Unfortunately titration is harder to do then with smoking because you don't feel the effects for an hour or so and they last much longer. Usually it's more of a body effect but it varies with the strain, potencty etc.
HS

Highlighter · 02-11-2004, 01:12 AM

I discovered I have HCV about 8 yrs ago, most likely contracted 20 yrs ago. My liver is in decent shape and so far I've avoided the AMA approach and have been treating it w/ homeopathics.
I've given up alcohol and coffee, but not my weed! My ALT and AST aren't too drastic, but over the normal range. I get tested every 6 mo or so. The one time I wasn't smoking was a 6 mo. run where I had 2 normal readings!
Still, not enough to make me give THAT up!

Buffalo Bill · 02-11-2004, 10:55 AM

Good for you Highlighter! Sounds like things aren't too bad for you. I believe that the 6 month period that you didn't smoke and tested normal was probably just a coincidence, otherwise my friend, I am not quite sure if you are being truthful or not. If you are still Hep C positive you will get worse with time and that is a fact. My numbers continued to decline for the first couple of years after being diagnosed before I rediscovered the positive effects that cannabis had for me. My numbers have continued to decline at the same rate since I started smoking again. If my numbers would go back to normal if I weren't smoking, I wouldn't think twice. I would give up cannabis in a second to get my life back on track with good health. Believe me, my friend, that is a no brainer. If what you suggest, in your case, is correct; perhaps you need to rethink your priorities in life... Not trying to be a dhead, just expressing my $.02! BTW, are you using milk thistle? It is a relatively inexpensive natural herb that acts as a liver cleanser and is quite beneficial. It may even lower your numbers a bit. Congrats on removing alcohol from your diet. That is the very best thing you could have done to help slow down and limit your liver damage. In time as your numbers digress, you way want to reconsider the Peg+Ribavirin while you are still healthy enough to tolerate it reasonably well. On the other hand, if your numbers remain low for a long enough period of time, they may finally develop a protease inhibitor that is much more successful in it's remission rate and much better tolerated by the patient. Good luck!

Highlighter · 02-11-2004, 07:59 PM

Hi BB, thanks for the concern and reply. My #'s have stayed pretty consistant over the years, cept a large spike 5 yrs ago which prompted a biopsy which didn't show much damage. I was using Melatonin for sleep at the time. With the spike, I quit that and I do use Milk Thistle daily. I have a few friends who also are HCV +, and a few have gone the Peg+Ribavirin route. They always complained of the fatigue factor. My job is extremely physical and I'm sure I couldn't work in conjunction with it. Recent medical woes have me pondering a vocational change, and if and when my numbers go up, I'll address a new approach.
Til then I'll keep puffing and eat that occasional brownie!

Best to you all!

hyperseth · 02-21-2004, 08:18 AM

as far as the title of the thread goes..

pro: it is much more medically... something..
well right now it's very good medically. yes very much so.

con: blood in stool. if this presists for three or four weeks i'm going to have to cut these out of my dosing pattern.

but as far as medically affected, yesirree.

02-04-2004, 08:21 PM	#11
Buffalo Bill Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Gulf of Mexico Posts: 39	Cannadicto: I would also like to thank you for taking the time to respond. I agree with all that you have said except I must respectfully disagree with your statement, " Hep C is now near defeated". I believe that you may be misinformed as the experts all agree that there will be at least 3 times as many deaths in 10 years in the US than there were last year. Granted, they have made great strides in treatment and the combo treatment has been somewhat successful in clearing non Genotype A. 60% or so and 40% Genotype A success rate just doesn't sound "near defeated" to me, but that may just be me and my 40% Genotype A success rate! The doctors at the Texas Liver Institute seem to think that there will eventually be a protease inhibitor that will address and cure Hep C. __________________ Life is good...
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02-04-2004, 11:04 PM	#12
°Cannaddicto° ~Contadino~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Italweed Posts: 283	I didn't mean to say that Inteferon and ribavirin will be THE therapy,but they are witouth any doubt a great step in Hep C treating,as it's true that before this one there was no therapy for Hep...i'm also so optimist beacause at the Infective Deseases check up center where i go i know a lot of people wich have/had Hep C and after therapy had theyr RNA turning negative...so,i don't want to give unreal illusions to those who are Hep C positive but have a genotipe/body wich won't react to the therapy... I also agree with you about the therapy side effects:inteferon affects people in different ways:some are tired all the time and feel a great "down" takin' it,someone other seem not to have any side effect but usually platalet would decrease so even if you don't feel it when you stop interferon you can see the difference... Good luck to you my friends,i was trying to give you some iformation about Hep C i knew 'cause i thought they were important for you,happy to see you both take care of your self . I do also . §salud§
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02-06-2004, 01:41 AM	#13
Hybrid Sole New Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 8	Yo ucan always go to your local health food store and pick up some large empty capsules and make your own cannapills. They work great but the only drawback is - as with all edibles - that they take a long time to take effect and are easy to over do. You might be couch bound for a while. I reccomend getting a vaporizer if you're worried about smoking. HS
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02-06-2004, 08:39 AM	#14
Tafari Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: PDX Posts: 208	Hey my WI buddy is here Tafari
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02-06-2004, 07:59 PM	#15
Buffalo Bill Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Gulf of Mexico Posts: 39	Tinctures Have any of you tried tinctures? If so, how did it work out. I believe that grain alcohol is used in making them. Anyone with liver disease should avoid alcohol at all costs, but I do believe that the small amount of alcohol in the caps is insignificant. I am just curious as to how effective they are. HS, is that what you are referring to? Or is it something else? This inquiring mind would like to know.... __________________ Life is good...
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02-08-2004, 01:47 AM	#16
Hybrid Sole New Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 8	Capsules No tinctures are good as are vegetable oils or bud butter (check out www.aamc.com for more info) Capsules are simply empty gel capsules that you can fill with herb and then swallow. Unfortunately titration is harder to do then with smoking because you don't feel the effects for an hour or so and they last much longer. Usually it's more of a body effect but it varies with the strain, potencty etc. HS
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02-11-2004, 01:12 AM	#17
Highlighter ring that bell Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the hashtral plane Posts: 4,448	I discovered I have HCV about 8 yrs ago, most likely contracted 20 yrs ago. My liver is in decent shape and so far I've avoided the AMA approach and have been treating it w/ homeopathics. I've given up alcohol and coffee, but not my weed! My ALT and AST aren't too drastic, but over the normal range. I get tested every 6 mo or so. The one time I wasn't smoking was a 6 mo. run where I had 2 normal readings! Still, not enough to make me give THAT up! __________________ I'm tossing pollen like breadcrumbs Brotherhood of Eternal Love R.I.P. DR. Jay, medical messiah R.I.P. Medjool, ganja goddess R.I.P. LMN , sativa king
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02-11-2004, 10:55 AM	#18
Buffalo Bill Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Gulf of Mexico Posts: 39	Good for you Highlighter! Sounds like things aren't too bad for you. I believe that the 6 month period that you didn't smoke and tested normal was probably just a coincidence, otherwise my friend, I am not quite sure if you are being truthful or not. If you are still Hep C positive you will get worse with time and that is a fact. My numbers continued to decline for the first couple of years after being diagnosed before I rediscovered the positive effects that cannabis had for me. My numbers have continued to decline at the same rate since I started smoking again. If my numbers would go back to normal if I weren't smoking, I wouldn't think twice. I would give up cannabis in a second to get my life back on track with good health. Believe me, my friend, that is a no brainer. If what you suggest, in your case, is correct; perhaps you need to rethink your priorities in life... Not trying to be a dhead, just expressing my $.02! BTW, are you using milk thistle? It is a relatively inexpensive natural herb that acts as a liver cleanser and is quite beneficial. It may even lower your numbers a bit. Congrats on removing alcohol from your diet. That is the very best thing you could have done to help slow down and limit your liver damage. In time as your numbers digress, you way want to reconsider the Peg+Ribavirin while you are still healthy enough to tolerate it reasonably well. On the other hand, if your numbers remain low for a long enough period of time, they may finally develop a protease inhibitor that is much more successful in it's remission rate and much better tolerated by the patient. Good luck! __________________ Life is good...
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02-11-2004, 07:59 PM	#19
Highlighter ring that bell Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the hashtral plane Posts: 4,448	Hi BB, thanks for the concern and reply. My #'s have stayed pretty consistant over the years, cept a large spike 5 yrs ago which prompted a biopsy which didn't show much damage. I was using Melatonin for sleep at the time. With the spike, I quit that and I do use Milk Thistle daily. I have a few friends who also are HCV +, and a few have gone the Peg+Ribavirin route. They always complained of the fatigue factor. My job is extremely physical and I'm sure I couldn't work in conjunction with it. Recent medical woes have me pondering a vocational change, and if and when my numbers go up, I'll address a new approach. Til then I'll keep puffing and eat that occasional brownie! Best to you all! __________________ I'm tossing pollen like breadcrumbs Brotherhood of Eternal Love R.I.P. DR. Jay, medical messiah R.I.P. Medjool, ganja goddess R.I.P. LMN , sativa king
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02-21-2004, 08:18 AM	#20
hyperseth i am mast(R)baker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 223	as far as the title of the thread goes.. pro: it is much more medically... something.. well right now it's very good medically. yes very much so. con: blood in stool. if this presists for three or four weeks i'm going to have to cut these out of my dosing pattern. but as far as medically affected, yesirree.
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