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Old 01-28-2004, 08:30 PM #1
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Question Eating cannabis; Pro's and Con's?

I have Hep C and have read conflicting posts as to whether it is healthy or not for Hep C patients to eat brownies or cookies. A good number of folks have posted and said that it was unhealthy, but have never been able to steer me to a report/study that proves or even states that as a fact. Sure could use some help in this matter as I would like to order some cookies from TY. Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and reply...
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Old 01-29-2004, 03:41 AM #2
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In comparrison to the other substances we take into our bodies from processed foods, prescription drugs, otc drugs..eating a brownie in my opinion shouldnt be a problem. Thats just my thoughts, I have had hep c for 14 yrs.
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You make a sound point, however I have gone to great extremes to avoid those things that you mentioned if they are harmful to my liver. I would like to try some cookies or brownies, but do not want to if any harm can be done to my liver. Otherwise I will just continue to vape as I know that it does no harm. I have already gone through two separate bouts of esophageal varices which is the hemmoraging of the esophagus. 90% of the folks this afficts die by bleeding out. 95% of the survivors relapse and 99% of those folks die. I have been fortunate and for some reason have defied all odds. My doctors still haven't figured that one out, but who's complaining! Perhaps it was the last rites that were given to me on two separate occasions. I still struggle with brain encephalopathy, which is nothing more than "brain fog". I will driving down the road 5 miles from home and suddenly not have a clue as to where I am, but it goes away eventually. The beauty of it is that I seldom remember those incidents! Sorry to bore you with my trivial details, but perhaps now you can see why I am seeking the factual truth concerning this matter, rather than just opinions no matter how sound they are! Thanks for your response. I should have been a bit more clear in my question.
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Old 02-04-2004, 12:22 AM #4
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Someone told me i could help in this forum,so here i am...
I will be honest with you,nearly no one medical user would eat cannabis...most of all because they are ill yet,and eating mj could make the things worse.Take me for example,i took a couple of pills of marinol some time ago,a friend brought them to me,but i didn't really felt any good effect:i toke to help myself eating and to prevent and counter nausea attacks,wich are frequently associated to AZT (anti-retro-viral) therapyes in hiv and also in chemo treatments.Eating cannabis sometimes (often if the patient is a first timer...) takes you to paranoia and other not desiderable side effects such as nausea,general sickness...
I would reccomend any medical user like me to vaporize his stuff:it's the purest way actually to get buzzed and hungry with cannabis besides marinol and other thc based pills that besides don't work very well...
I started smoking mj before needing it to cure myself,but only now i can appreciate hthe benefits she can give you,altough i'll buy one day a vaporizer i still find a good old joint,with a little tobacco and some good herb,rolled with a slim rolling paper is always the best therapy assumption mode...at least i find joints to be more effective in stopping nausea (you don't have to wait for it to come up like when you it eat,you just light a joint,wait 5 minuts and stop the attack...) and at the same time great appetite stimulators wich is a good thing to many of those like me who substitutes some pills (anti-emetics pills,appetite pills,vitamines,riconsitution sutff...) with cannabis...
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Old 02-04-2004, 12:31 AM #5
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Thanks for your reply, even though Im not the poster, I like to hear how things work for other people. When my liver has to process somethins it doesnt like, scrips ect... It lets me know with pain. I havent had any pain with eating, but all people and situations are different.
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Old 02-04-2004, 12:38 AM #6
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Quote<have Hep C and have read conflicting posts as to whether it is healthy or not for Hep C patients to eat brownies or cookies. A good number of folks have posted and said that it was unhealthy, but have never been able to steer me to a report/study that proves or even states that as a fact. Sure could use some help in this matter as I would like to order some cookies from TY. Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and reply...<Quote

Sorry,i read your post after replying the first time...you say you have Hep C,so let me tell me some things about it,as i know some people at the hospital where i go to do my check up for hiv...

1)Hep C is now near to be defeated.A succesful pattern of therapy were started using Interferone (a general potent anti-viral),and patients had to do 4 iniections a week.
Actually the therapy is Peg-Intron (an evolved Interferone fine-tuned for Hep C as well as B...) associated with another anti viral (ribavirin).The first type of therapy gave out a 30-40% success while the actual one is giving out 60% rates,and it's a great hope on the way to defeat Hep C.Talk to your doctor and try it,it's only an iniection a week and 4 pills a day for 6-12 motnhs and IT WORKS!!!

2)When you have Hep C the cells of your liver are inibhited from re-genreration,wich means necrosis,fibrosis may happen,having a good diet (no fryed food,no oil,wash all fruit-vegetables good NO ALCHOOL at all,it's poison for you!!!).
The better you eat,drink (water!),the better it is.
Also all drugs except cannabis are prohibited.Cannabis affects primarly your breath,but using coke,heroin,lsd,or other shit would put your liver under stress and force it to start produce little fibrosis wich would accumulate time by time...
Drinking alchool or not being Hep C postitive is the border line between having or not Cirrosis in the next 10-20 years....

So...first of all go speak to a doctor specialized in Hep C treatments and ask for Interferone And Ribavirin (he should 99.9% know about it as it is the unique therapy who successed in turning RNA+ in RNA negative) and start eating and drinkin' better,it's up to you how you will feel in a few years...
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Old 02-04-2004, 03:17 AM #7
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Ineteferon has a limited success rate, approx 60%. It is also not an option after the start of fibrosis. Side effects include hair loss, extreme mood swings, and several others. Take too long to type. After treatment, If ineffective there are no other treatments that offer even close to the 60% success rate. Hep c effects millions of americans, many of which do not know they are effected. I wish my liver specialist was as optimistic as you.
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Old 02-04-2004, 03:20 AM #8
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P.S my doctor and I had a sit down and I was told if I was a canidate It would require daily injections.
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Old 02-04-2004, 10:04 AM #9
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As you wrote,according to researches,up to 60% of possibilities to turn RNA-...is always better than 50/50,if i were you at least i'd try...my friends used it for 6 months-1 year,and didn't have side effects named on the label like hair loss,probably tho only one side effect wich was very "present" was for all of my friends a "debilitation-tired" mood...

Again,the injiections with the actual theraphy are no more than 3 a week...i know it's not a "sure" therapy,but for sure if i were you i'd try it!I mean...even if it's only 60% of possibilities to heal try it!
It works better on some Hep C virus then others (there are various virus sub-classes in the Hep C),i highly reccomend at least to get informations about this therapy 'cause it's effective!!!!
Doesn' fit for all Hep C + but man,it works with most of them!!!!
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:06 PM #10
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I have genotype 1a. It is the most prevelant and the most difficult to clear. I was put in a trial several years ago testing Interferon aka Intron A for 6 months with no success. I am currently in a trial comparing the use of pegylated interferon to colchicine for liver maintenance. I was randomly chosen to take the colchicine and have been doing for 2 years now. I am a patient of the Texas Liver Center and am fortunate to have one world's best looking after me. My doctor is somewhat hesitant to let me take peg along with Ribavirin because of my extremely low blood platelet count, varies from 70-90K, but that may be next once he hears back from Harvard with my biopsy results as I am at the mid point of this Co Pilot trial. I am on many meds to control varices, encephalapathy and for pain management. I have found that cannabis makes my day a littly more tolerable and I thank God for that.... Wisc2: The newest form of interferon is a once a week time released shot unlike the every other day shots that I had to take. Pegasus w/ Ribavirin seems to affect everyone a little different. I tolerated the Interferon and at the time it didn't seem to terrible because I knew that it gave me a chance to clear the virus. I did not really realize how crappy it made me feel until I was no longer taking it. But I know a guy who takes it with no problem other that a slightly uncomfortable night when he injects himself. You may want to rethink your decision and give it a shot. You can always cease taking it if you so desire. Just my $.02! Good luck....
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