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Old 11-13-2008, 01:37 AM   #31
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well i'd explain the origins of bubblegum but that is a mystery...
why explain it in depth when Texas Kid already has...
read what Texas Kid wrote in a thread here on IC labled Bubblegum Information.

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Bubble Gum - a "Seriously" Refined Classic

There are several strains out in the world of cannabis genetics whose origin and further breeding process seem to be unclear. Growers get especially confused, when a certain strain is offered under the same name by two or more seed banks: who has the original one, whose are copies? Bubble Gum is such one contentious strain, of which at least two seed banks do offer their own versions, in this case Serious Seeds and T.H. Seeds (both residing in Amsterdam), not to mention all those internet-based criminal copy cats here. So I decided to trace back the real roots of Bubble Gum. Asking both the above-mentioned breeders resulted in two corresponding versions of the Bubble Gum’s breeding story, giving good reasons for the existence of two high-quality Bubble Gum strains.

A grower in Indiana (USA) developed the original material during the 80ies. In 1993, this guy gave three very different female Bubble Gum plants to Adam from T.H. Seeds as well as to Simon and Tony (the two splitted up shortly after, with Simon founding Serious Seeds and Tony Sagarmatha Seeds) from Cerebral Seeds. So Bubble Gum arrived in the Netherlands in the hands of three breeders. And from that moment on, different new chapters were written in the breeding history of Bubble Gum, its development kind of branched out. Three breeders – three ways of breeding: These seed masters were going to make their own special selection out of the three different genetic types they had received.

Simon reports: “As far as I know, T.H. Seeds did work further with another of those 3 plants than I did”. That’s the reason why Adam (T.H. Seeds` BG will be another story…) considers his Bubble Gum as “mostly indica”, whereas Simon puts his version into the “Mostly Sativa” category. He focused his research on two of the three lines, finally deciding for one type that should become his Bubble Gum seed strain.

It took Simon five generations to end up in the desired breeding result, officially registering it as “Bubble Gum”. He says that it is not possible to give exact sativa/indica percentages, but reveals that the genetic background of Bubble Gum consists of three different exotic sativas, amongst them Mexican and Columbian, and an Afghani indica.

It is remarkable that Bubble Gum is the only inbred strain (no F1 hybrid) in the Serious Seeds menu, thus being especially uniform. Upon being asked about special considerations to Bubble Gum, Simon explained: “The bubble gum shows a remarkable uniformity in plants grown from seeds. It is a strong and beautiful plant, which grows a heavy stem, you never need to tie heavy buds up. The initial stages of seedlings can be tender, and you have to take care a bit for them in that stage. It is important to not let them be overgrown by neighbouring plants, which may grow faster at first. When about 2 weeks old the Bubble Gum will start to pick up speed and grow as fast as other plants.” This delay in growth can be explained by the fact that the BG is an inbred strain and therefore does not have that hybrid vigour effect (faster and stronger growth) of F1 hybrids.

Keeping these hints in mind, I sow four BG seeds - only four seeds, due to the chronic congestion on my seed-testing list. They really showed off the ground one day later than common, but germinated properly and simultaneously. And in fact, the overall growth speed was slow at first, but increased significantly after two weeks. When the multiple-finger leafs had been formed, their look was quite unusual: dark green in the colour (indica trait), but at the same time rather narrow and sharply serrated (sativa traits).

After five weeks from germination, they had grown into medium tall plants (55-65 cm) under HPS 400 + 250 W, with few side branching. But due to the dominating sativa content, it was clear that they would further stretch during flowering. Two plants turned out to be female and soon developed the first flower clusters after having turned the lights to 12/12. And one could quickly realize that huge top colas were about to be produced by the plants.

After four weeks of flowering, the buds began to release a sweet fruity scent that was going to become more intensive from week to week, really reminding of fruity chewing gum. Also resin production had gotten into full speed, conquering more and more of the plants` surface. The buds grew into very compact resinous heads, featuring a high calyx-to-leaf ratio, thus allowing for easy harvest processing.

After 58 resp. 61 days of flowering, harvest was not only easy, but also rewarding, as the two BG plants yielded 25 resp. 28 grams of finest sticky sinsemilla. As expected, they had kept on growing vertically during flowering, finally amounting to 91 resp. 102 cm. But this contributed to the formation of long-drawn, heavy yielding main colas.

The buds were pleasantly mild to smoke and had preserved some of that special fruitiness also after the drying process. No surprise that the high delivered a pretty strong sativa power dosage, with euphoric tendencies, at least it will make you blow some funny fantasy bubbles in your mind.

The indica aspect, however, is also noticeable, causing a certain degree of stonedness, too. This nice mixture of both sides of the spectrum makes Serious Seeds` Bubble Gum an attractive experience, and accordingly, it has won several awards, e.g. at the High Times Cannabis Cup 1994, 1995 and 1999.

It may be new to some that Bubble Gum is also a good choice for outdoor cultivation. While rather taking place on the balcony in Holland, it is also successfully practised in the great Spanish outdoors, as Simon reports: “Bubble Gum is also liked for outdoors in Spain a lot, it will also form a very nice plant with moult resistance buds when grown outdoors here but just finishes not soon enough for my standards to call it an outdoor plant. Normal finishing date 1-15 oct.”


I pirated from a post by Hybridizer on another site

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Hope this helps.

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Old 11-13-2008, 09:42 AM   #32
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:01 PM   #33
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so that means its verrry probable then that you're "20 year old Indy Bubblegum" is LEGIT... congratulations on successfully bringing this clone back to the boards...
she's probably some damn fine smoke... be well LifeLess and spread her around!=)

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Old 11-13-2008, 04:54 PM   #34
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No probability on the Damn Fine Smoke issue. This BG will put you out if you aren't careful and it put the G in Greasy Resins. It's almost syrupy and sooooooo sweet.
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:56 PM   #35
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Anyone know how close the serious seeds version is to your guys'? I'm currently growing 3 girls out in 2 gal pots (separate pots) under a 150w HPS. Just started 3rd week, no real smell yet but if I shake the plant or rub a stem it's a clean skunky sweet smell. Veg was a bit slower compared to some bagseed and sour D hybrid i had.. But it started showing pistils and preflowers in 11/13 than the others. Also noticed it really doesn't like N that much in flowering, eats up the P and K tho. I am blazed off some herijuana i picked up last night.. man this stuff is good!
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Old 11-13-2008, 07:45 PM   #36
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If only i could get my hands on such a strain!!?!?
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Old 11-13-2008, 11:22 PM   #37
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Haha yes thats why i think all the time too. Amazing pics, if only i could my hands on those genetics
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:14 AM   #38
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Ahhh...Bubblegum. Very nice pics everyone.

One of my all time faves. Perhaps we'll meet again some day. :smile:
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:24 AM   #39
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I got some Bubblegum genes in seed form coming soon!
keep an eye out

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Old 11-14-2008, 10:37 PM   #40
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:12 AM   #41
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Very nice job mem. Looks like you gave her a nice flush. Ill post a pic of my veggin plants tomorrow. Great Job . I have a pack of deep chunk id like to see if theres a nice male in there. Would be interesting. I made a closet cross of this bg x and nice male Apollo13 Bx1. Grew some of them out a few grows ago. You would never know theres was a13 there. Bg was super dominate. Peace LL
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:37 AM   #42
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Thanx LL. yeah gave her two weeks flush.
Ive been thinking also about a cross.
I just pop dna pure afghan and white rhino nirvana.
So will see what I get got high hopes for the afghan.
also thinking about growdoc bubbledust or res chemdog dd



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