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I've been using a bokashi composter for about a year or so. Best investment I've made for creating compost though I love my worms. I put some of the finished bokashi into a worm bin I set up for the experiment and they made quick work of it. It's probably a bit too hot for container gardening. Outside in the raised bed gardens it works very well. There are some really good bokashi brew kits out there with the ceramic addition that you mentioned but your recipe certainly gets the job done. CC
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I checked out the website. Pretty interesting stuff. I bet it works well. Here's the mico product we're using in our current grow:
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It's certainly affordable enough. A local retailer was given permission by the manufacturer to break the product down into 1 lb. bags which retail for $11.50 up and down a $1.00 depending on whether or not you want Endo or Endo/Ecto or granular or micronized, blah, blah, blah. I mix a bit in water and hit the clones in Rapid Rooters once they show signs of rooting. Huge explosive roots come flying out. CC
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i was telling my buddy to go lightly when he used this stuff and he fried his palanst due to increased nutirnet release rate.
i liked it but had problem due to above mentioned effect.
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Bokashi
Here is a link to the analysis done by Dr. Ingham's organization, Soil Food Web, on EM Bokashi
In this sense the term bokashi refers to the bran that has been inoculated with EM-1 - the starter that's used in bokashi composting. This EM Bokashi is dried after the fermentation process is completed and then added to the soil at 1% ratio. If you have a feed or farm store nearby you can buy 50 lb. bags of wheat bran or rice bran (preferred from what I understand) for around $15.00 Once the bran is fermented and dried it will last for several months if kept in a cool dry place. One question I had is regarding the ceramic product that's added when fermenting the rice/wheat bran, would rock dust accomplish the same thing? And one other question, I'm curious if the product 'Hydrozyme' isn't an EM spin-off. Just a thought. CC
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Do any of you add em1 to your guano tea's at any rate?
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Hope Microbeman or somebody else can help me on this: I would like to buy some EM-plus to get the EM-1 which includes additional purple non-sulfur bacteria (PNSB).
The point is that for such product SCD writes that it is not suitable for human consumption and that instead I should buy EM Food Grade. In my country EM Food Grade is not distributed (I can get though EM-X or Xtra-EM, but they are very pricy, and I believe you can't "overdrive" them using the activation process). The EM I'd buy would be mostly used for growing, but I would like to get something drinkable as well, as I already drink the lactobacilli I make with Jaykush's method and EM-1 is said to be even healtier. I've seen Microbeman says it is possible to activate EM-1 for a longer period (about 60 days) to make it good for human consumption, and that at the beginning he used the first version of EM-1 which included all the PNSB. The question is then: is 60day activated-EM-plus as safe as 60day activated-EM-Farming or should I buy a bottle of each and use the plus for growing and the farming for drinking? |
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here's something about collecting PNSB...Since I have a lot of rice paddy here, I would like to know what Larsen's medium is or how how to make it. Also any info about Van Niel's medium and Acetate Yeast Extract medium would be cool!
https://www.philjol.info/index.php/PJ...ewArticle/1013 edit: from reading the PDF seems that PNSB only grew on the Acetate Yeast Extract. (AYE) Looking for info about making it... |
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Hey Thaiphoon nice discovery! By the way, what about your EM, do you consume it as well or do you use it only for crops?
Thanks ripman |
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Ignore all the bullshit. EM is simply a very good motherculture. The ceramics an special salt are just ways to make money on hokey magic tricks. Been doing just fine without them.
WTF does "structuring water". Mean? Just a bunch of random unscientific crap. I almost fell off my chair reading about it. Next we will all be using power amulets to channel our plant essences. |
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