EM1 - effective microbial....anyone use it? - Organic Soil - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

alaikiek · 11-04-2008, 03:02 AM

I was give a bottle of EM1 microbial innoculant: https://www.emamerica.com/ and have used it for the last year on my vegitable garden with amazing and impressive results. Bigger, greener plants, more flowers and buds, bigger fruits and vegis. I also spray it on my chicken coop once a month and it completely controls the odors from thier droppings. I sprayed it on my yard waste compost pile and in 2-3 months it broke it down in half making some beautiful compost.
At first I was a little skeptical when I was given the bottle, but after using it for the last year I am pretty impressed.
Has anyone out there used EM1 or any other microbial innoculant in their organic soil mix? I don't think it would be benificial as an immediate fertalizer, but I think it would help when you premix your soil a month before using it for planting.

Peace,
Ala

jaykush · 11-04-2008, 03:05 AM

em is an awesome product if you dont mind paying the price, it is a bit pricey for most. but since you got it for free thats great! like you said its not really a fertilizer but will make your soil more healthy, more resistant to disease and pest, as well as much more. its best used in very dilute applications.

Suby · 11-04-2008, 01:29 PM

I am dying to try this stuff out, how is it made?

jaykush · 11-04-2008, 03:36 PM

pretty sure its made from a mother culture that the product maker has in japan, not 100%. i know one person at another forum is trying to make a diy EM but not done yet.

lucky thaiphoon gets it dirt cheap, something like 5$ a bottle.

it has lacto bacillus in it, and we already know how to make that.

Suby · 11-04-2008, 06:35 PM

Fuck I knew I was supposed to do something this weekend, I forgot to make LB.

Looks like we are having rice tonite

MrFista · 11-05-2008, 05:52 PM

EM - The main principle is that a bunch of symbiotic microbes have a far better chance of establishing than isolated cultures. Since proven to be correct.

Here's some laymans information. Dr Higa wished the technology to be available, you can make your own, the info is out there, but it requires some dedication.

EM

MrFista · 11-05-2008, 06:32 PM

This is far more revealing - we could work this one out to the point we had the major groups for sure.

EM stuff

The bit talking about the basis being only the three families...

lactic-acid bacteria
yeasts
phototrophic (aka photosynthetic) bacteria

That aint hard! If we get this part.

Then there are the actinomycetes and mold fungi I think.

Lactic Acid Bacteria - Rice/milk, thanks to J we got that covered. Sourkraut (spelling) brew will contain lactic acid bacteria. There are also indian milk lollies that contain them, yoghurts and health milk drinks. Even probiotic ice cream in the uk now!...

Yeasts - which ones, from where, more than likely bakers and brewers yeasts.

Phototropic bacteria - easy for me I've got blue green algae duckweed and azolla growing. This doesn't proliferate till it is exposed to light/food, so it is in smaller concentrations in the em. I get the low tide smell where the above plants grow just like the link says of the bacteria. Many waterbodies have prolific blue green algae blooms in summer causing various problems. Be interesting if some bright spark were to learn to harvest this as biomass for fuel

. It's normally blooming from digesting pollution/toxins, this is the role of phototropic bacteria in EM.

Learn more from the link than my stoned rambles.

11-06-2008, 06:01 AM

Talk to Microbeman, he's done a bunch of research on it and even takes some himself as part of his diet...

Dee9 · 11-09-2008, 09:44 AM

found this site on EM

https://www.eminfo.info/

very informative

Suby · 11-17-2008, 02:20 PM

Bump

11-04-2008, 03:02 AM	#1
alaikiek New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 20	EM1 - effective microbial....anyone use it? I was give a bottle of EM1 microbial innoculant: https://www.emamerica.com/ and have used it for the last year on my vegitable garden with amazing and impressive results. Bigger, greener plants, more flowers and buds, bigger fruits and vegis. I also spray it on my chicken coop once a month and it completely controls the odors from thier droppings. I sprayed it on my yard waste compost pile and in 2-3 months it broke it down in half making some beautiful compost. At first I was a little skeptical when I was given the bottle, but after using it for the last year I am pretty impressed. Has anyone out there used EM1 or any other microbial innoculant in their organic soil mix? I don't think it would be benificial as an immediate fertalizer, but I think it would help when you premix your soil a month before using it for planting. Peace, Ala
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11-04-2008, 03:05 AM	#2
jaykush dirty black hands Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the old growth forest Posts: 4,990	em is an awesome product if you dont mind paying the price, it is a bit pricey for most. but since you got it for free thats great! like you said its not really a fertilizer but will make your soil more healthy, more resistant to disease and pest, as well as much more. its best used in very dilute applications. __________________ “Everything is written in the book of nature. This book is always open.” sepp holzer
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11-04-2008, 01:29 PM	#3
Suby AWD Aficianado Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the healing arms of planet love. Posts: 2,435	I am dying to try this stuff out, how is it made? __________________ Organic Fanatic Collective Suby's Kitchen The "Beer" Fridge ~Pimp Your Organic Fertilizer~
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11-04-2008, 03:36 PM	#4
jaykush dirty black hands Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the old growth forest Posts: 4,990	pretty sure its made from a mother culture that the product maker has in japan, not 100%. i know one person at another forum is trying to make a diy EM but not done yet. lucky thaiphoon gets it dirt cheap, something like 5$ a bottle. it has lacto bacillus in it, and we already know how to make that. __________________ “Everything is written in the book of nature. This book is always open.” sepp holzer
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11-04-2008, 06:35 PM	#5
Suby AWD Aficianado Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the healing arms of planet love. Posts: 2,435	Fuck I knew I was supposed to do something this weekend, I forgot to make LB. Looks like we are having rice tonite __________________ Organic Fanatic Collective Suby's Kitchen The "Beer" Fridge ~Pimp Your Organic Fertilizer~
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11-05-2008, 05:52 PM	#6
MrFista Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,036	EM - The main principle is that a bunch of symbiotic microbes have a far better chance of establishing than isolated cultures. Since proven to be correct. Here's some laymans information. Dr Higa wished the technology to be available, you can make your own, the info is out there, but it requires some dedication. EM __________________ I'm in it for the tomatoes. I been growing tomatoes for a long long time. Sometimes I get to thinking I know everything about tomatoes. My tomatoes make me completely delusional.
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11-05-2008, 06:32 PM	#7
MrFista Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,036	This is far more revealing - we could work this one out to the point we had the major groups for sure. EM stuff The bit talking about the basis being only the three families... lactic-acid bacteria yeasts phototrophic (aka photosynthetic) bacteria That aint hard! If we get this part. Then there are the actinomycetes and mold fungi I think. Lactic Acid Bacteria - Rice/milk, thanks to J we got that covered. Sourkraut (spelling) brew will contain lactic acid bacteria. There are also indian milk lollies that contain them, yoghurts and health milk drinks. Even probiotic ice cream in the uk now!... Yeasts - which ones, from where, more than likely bakers and brewers yeasts. Phototropic bacteria - easy for me I've got blue green algae duckweed and azolla growing. This doesn't proliferate till it is exposed to light/food, so it is in smaller concentrations in the em. I get the low tide smell where the above plants grow just like the link says of the bacteria. Many waterbodies have prolific blue green algae blooms in summer causing various problems. Be interesting if some bright spark were to learn to harvest this as biomass for fuel . It's normally blooming from digesting pollution/toxins, this is the role of phototropic bacteria in EM. Learn more from the link than my stoned rambles. __________________ I'm in it for the tomatoes. I been growing tomatoes for a long long time. Sometimes I get to thinking I know everything about tomatoes. My tomatoes make me completely delusional. Last edited by MrFista; 11-05-2008 at 06:56 PM..
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11-06-2008, 06:01 AM	#8
CT Guy Guest Posts: n/a	Talk to Microbeman, he's done a bunch of research on it and even takes some himself as part of his diet...
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11-09-2008, 09:44 AM	#9
Dee9 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 292	found this site on EM https://www.eminfo.info/ very informative
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11-17-2008, 02:20 PM	#10
Suby AWD Aficianado Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the healing arms of planet love. Posts: 2,435	Bump __________________ Organic Fanatic Collective Suby's Kitchen The "Beer" Fridge ~Pimp Your Organic Fertilizer~
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