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Richard Swett · 10-31-2008, 09:40 PM

Not really sure where to post this..
Not really new here, but I think this might be my first post. Been lurking around for about 2 years now and I am finally faced with a question I cannot find the answers to.

I was just wondering if anyone knows of any coffeeshops for sale with a valid license intact in the Maastricht, Kerkrade, Heerlen, or Amsterdam area.

I know that Amsterdam and Utrecht do not issue new licenses, but is that a fact of these other cities also (Maastricht, Kerkrade, Heerlen).

Also, if these boarder cities will be revoking and/or shutting down coffeeshops in the near future.

And, last but not least, if 90kilo of stock would keep a coffeeshop running for the first 3 months.

Please only post if you know for a FACT or have had experience in this area.

oldpink · 11-01-2008, 12:20 PM

sorry to tell you this but you can't just buy a coffee shop, it doesn't work that way
and if your from a non EU country even getting a work permit will be difficult

Richard Swett · 11-01-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oldpink

sorry to tell you this but you can't just buy a coffee shop, it doesn't work that way

Obviously, you can't "just" buy any business. I didn't say I to "just buy" anything. I had specific questions I wanted answered.

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Originally Posted by oldpink

and if your from a non EU country even getting a work permit will be difficult

Don't worry, I am already allowed to live, work and own a business in the Eu for as long as I want. Also, I didn't ask this about work permits, but thanks for informing me.

Again, please only post if you know for a FACT or have had experience in this area.

I am trying to avoid moronic statements(example in the post above), so if you have something to say at least back it up with FACTS that can be referenced.

KharmaGirl · 11-01-2008, 02:28 PM

Whoa...You're calling the Admin of this site moronic? Ballsy

mr.haze420 · 11-01-2008, 04:08 PM

fact 1, coffeshops in the border town are in deep shit. fact 2, if you have eu status, for sure you can buy a shop if you have legal money. and can pass the i am not a criminal test. fact 3, 90 kilos is alot of product, and it also has to be split into many different varieties. is this 90 kilos of grass and hash or just weed, you will need hash. as a small operation as you will prob be, that is enough to get going. now all you have to do is find a shop that is for sale, they are available for the right price. good luck

joaquin386 · 11-02-2008, 12:13 AM

Go to any real estate agency an ask them there to find it for you or just google for it if you want to do it yourself.

At the end is a legal bussiness so if you are EU worker you can own one.

Richard Swett · 11-02-2008, 06:39 PM

Thanks Haze and JQ.

I do have a regular job, but I don't know where I can explain a large amount of cash just suddenly appearing. That's what I would like a shop for. Do they check where the cash comes from? That is something I will have to work out.
Being a criminal, hmmm, I don't consider myself one, I only carry a sawed-off shotgun and a glock, but purely for protection from the real criminals. But really, the establishment of many governments would consider many of us and many of the coffeeshops now operating criminal.
That poses another question:
Does the government of the Netherlands run background checks from the country of my origin?

No Hash... I don't have any contacts either(yet), but I figure when you have a shop people are all the time gonna trying to sling you their stuff anyway. I mean I have slung my weed to shops and many of you guys have most likely smoked my shit in the past. I figure hash would come in time, because a lot of shops in a-dam don't carry it.

I have been working Google overtime trying to find shops for a couple months and I'm sure I have pissed off a couple real estate agents by now with all my questions. I do have appointments to talk to some people about a permit. So, I might be able to get around buying a shop with a permit as long as I can get through these appointments.

Moppel · 11-02-2008, 06:44 PM

if the money is black , you can forget about it.

mr.haze420 · 11-03-2008, 08:26 AM

never been in a shop that did not have hash, the back end of the coffeeshop biz is all criminal activity. there is no legal way to acquire stock. the gov. here will look up your ass as to where the money comes from. there is a law here now that if they even suspect you are white washing $ they deny you a license or refuse to renew your existing one. biebob law. just ask the guy who lost his red light biz.

Farmer John · 11-03-2008, 10:35 AM

If you really carry guns then you obviously have some skeletons in your closet and yes, Europol, Interpol, KGB, Gestapo etc. will do a background check, for example me being a smuggler, cultivator and user of cannabis - no chance to do anything without the heat being on 24/7. Checks at airport, shit, now that I have just read a great load of police reports (a friend just got out of prison) I know for fact that Ipol is nothing to play with man it is sick what they know

but if you have legal money, know dutch people and have good contacts then what the hell, go for it...but looking at your plan...you just dont go and buy a coffeeshop, you need to know other people than real estate agents to get things going, Oldpink, Moppel and Mr .Haze know these things very well..

10-31-2008, 09:40 PM	#1
Richard Swett New Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3	Coffeeshop Not really sure where to post this.. Not really new here, but I think this might be my first post. Been lurking around for about 2 years now and I am finally faced with a question I cannot find the answers to. I was just wondering if anyone knows of any coffeeshops for sale with a valid license intact in the Maastricht, Kerkrade, Heerlen, or Amsterdam area. I know that Amsterdam and Utrecht do not issue new licenses, but is that a fact of these other cities also (Maastricht, Kerkrade, Heerlen). Also, if these boarder cities will be revoking and/or shutting down coffeeshops in the near future. And, last but not least, if 90kilo of stock would keep a coffeeshop running for the first 3 months. Please only post if you know for a FACT or have had experience in this area.
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11-01-2008, 12:20 PM	#2
oldpink Retired Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: sowing the seeds of love Posts: 5,952	sorry to tell you this but you can't just buy a coffee shop, it doesn't work that way and if your from a non EU country even getting a work permit will be difficult __________________ Fly On My Sweet Angel Williamina Queen, 26.5.43 - 22.3.06 shine on 11/07/06 "Like Rick, I don't find it easy to express my feelings in words, but I loved him and will miss him enormously".David Gilmour Monday 15th September 2008 Gypsy is finally Free
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11-02-2008, 12:13 AM	#6
joaquin386 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sunny 28ºN Posts: 572	Go to any real estate agency an ask them there to find it for you or just google for it if you want to do it yourself. At the end is a legal bussiness so if you are EU worker you can own one. __________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ Grows: Shiva Shanti, White widow (Sensi), BubbleGum (Serious Seeds), DSD (Reservoir), BubblegumxDSD (myself), Super Silver Haze, Neville Haze (MrNice), HashBerry (Mandala) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ Fridge: Neville Haze, NL5xHZ, Black Widow, Afghan Haze (MrNice), Skunk#1, NL, O. Haze, Afghan#1, Mama Thai (Seedsman), Love Potion#1, Double Skunk (Refeerman), Hashberry (Mandala), Snowdog BX1, Chemdog BX2, DSD (Reservoir) Manala, Mazar-i-Sharif (RSC) O. HazexSkunk#1 (SamS) HashberryxNevilleHaze, BubblegumxDSD (myself) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~
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11-02-2008, 06:44 PM	#8
Moppel Grower for Life Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,916	if the money is black , you can forget about it. __________________ It's good to be good.....it's nice to be nice....
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11-01-2008, 02:28 PM	#4
KharmaGirl ~Resident Puck Bunny~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 5,574	Whoa...You're calling the Admin of this site moronic? Ballsy
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11-01-2008, 04:08 PM	#5
mr.haze420 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 938	fact 1, coffeshops in the border town are in deep shit. fact 2, if you have eu status, for sure you can buy a shop if you have legal money. and can pass the i am not a criminal test. fact 3, 90 kilos is alot of product, and it also has to be split into many different varieties. is this 90 kilos of grass and hash or just weed, you will need hash. as a small operation as you will prob be, that is enough to get going. now all you have to do is find a shop that is for sale, they are available for the right price. good luck
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11-02-2008, 06:39 PM	#7
Richard Swett New Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3	Thanks Haze and JQ. I do have a regular job, but I don't know where I can explain a large amount of cash just suddenly appearing. That's what I would like a shop for. Do they check where the cash comes from? That is something I will have to work out. Being a criminal, hmmm, I don't consider myself one, I only carry a sawed-off shotgun and a glock, but purely for protection from the real criminals. But really, the establishment of many governments would consider many of us and many of the coffeeshops now operating criminal. That poses another question: Does the government of the Netherlands run background checks from the country of my origin? No Hash... I don't have any contacts either(yet), but I figure when you have a shop people are all the time gonna trying to sling you their stuff anyway. I mean I have slung my weed to shops and many of you guys have most likely smoked my shit in the past. I figure hash would come in time, because a lot of shops in a-dam don't carry it. I have been working Google overtime trying to find shops for a couple months and I'm sure I have pissed off a couple real estate agents by now with all my questions. I do have appointments to talk to some people about a permit. So, I might be able to get around buying a shop with a permit as long as I can get through these appointments.
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11-03-2008, 08:26 AM	#9
mr.haze420 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 938	never been in a shop that did not have hash, the back end of the coffeeshop biz is all criminal activity. there is no legal way to acquire stock. the gov. here will look up your ass as to where the money comes from. there is a law here now that if they even suspect you are white washing $ they deny you a license or refuse to renew your existing one. biebob law. just ask the guy who lost his red light biz.
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11-03-2008, 10:35 AM	#10
Farmer John A humble dirt farmer Join Date: May 2005 Location: In the shadows Posts: 4,136	If you really carry guns then you obviously have some skeletons in your closet and yes, Europol, Interpol, KGB, Gestapo etc. will do a background check, for example me being a smuggler, cultivator and user of cannabis - no chance to do anything without the heat being on 24/7. Checks at airport, shit, now that I have just read a great load of police reports (a friend just got out of prison) I know for fact that Ipol is nothing to play with man it is sick what they know but if you have legal money, know dutch people and have good contacts then what the hell, go for it...but looking at your plan...you just dont go and buy a coffeeshop, you need to know other people than real estate agents to get things going, Oldpink, Moppel and Mr .Haze know these things very well..
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