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blackone · 10-01-2008, 10:18 PM

It's been a while since I posted pics here - used to do diaries but I kinda got lazy

I don't have any chapters any more now since I grow perpetual;p It's a lot of fun harvesting every 1-3 weeks but of course there are problems too - pests never rest and since I've always got some plants in late flower spraying is a no-no. I've got thrips and they do hurt my plants a little but I kinda just let them live now... might think about some predatory bugs.

First an overview of the whole room:

Some tops are missing - here they are - some swt#3 head colas I harvested to let the lower buds mature:

A single fms grapefruit plant from clone day 45 flower - for some reason it's doing a bit better than the other clones of the same pheno:

Check out this sidebud - this is where a lot of the weight is in this strain.

10-01-2008, 10:29 PM

Hey blackone!!

Nice bud right there my friend.

I never liked the ideia of harvesting every 2-4 week or somethin cause i couldnt use the cab to dry the weed with less smell, couldnt optimize light and cannopy and wouldnt cure my weed ...
Hearing your story sure adds a couple more factors! LOL
Had to share it bro!! hehe

Nice sog with lots of fat colas!!!

Do you smoke the bugs or they get lost once theyr habitat runs out of life lol ?

blackone · 10-01-2008, 10:34 PM

Hey Frank thanks for stopping by.
Well the thrips are so small I don't know what happens to them

They leave the buds alone .. perhaps they die a sticky death just like fungus gnats.
I used to have a lot of gnats and although they didn't hurt my plants they were a bitch to find in a resinated bud. They seem to be gone now... I wonder if my trichomes killed them all

Quazi · 10-02-2008, 12:18 AM

That looks sweet man. I can't wait to see what kinda stuff you pull out of this perpetual.

Pullin' up a chair if you don't mind.

-Q

Dr. Bloom · 10-02-2008, 12:22 AM

That's pretty sweet man! What kind of light do you use for vegging? If you don't mind me asking. Keep it growin'.
-Dr. B

blackone · 10-02-2008, 07:02 AM

Thanks for taking a look people.
I'm vegging under 4*36W of 6500K flourescents - it's working quite well as long as I keep working to have those veggies close to the light - sometimes they get a little burned when I get lazy and let them touch the tubes.
Atm I'm growing Bubblegum (Bifrost from sagaseeds), Swt#3 and grapefruit.
Got a couple of revegged clones of a Satori pheno that I decided to hang on to - was actually flowering my moms but changed my mind because it's such a wonderful plant to grow.
I also have a few plants of my own cross: SatoriXswt#3. I also had a couple of gfXswt but i kinda got the seedlings of my crosses mixed up... and now the 6 plants I have all seem Satori dominant so the gf crosses must have been among the males.

Young Giver · 10-02-2008, 04:28 PM

perpetual grows are very convienient so i hope that you keep it that way.....staying very clean is a big factor....

Smeden · 10-02-2008, 09:25 PM

Hi Blackone m8

Nice crop you pop... looks dank dank like always from your side.
How many plants, you start up each 2-3 weeks interval?

About the thrips... I had big problems myself. And after trying; homade soap, boght soap and neem oil (none of these really made a difference) I bought 250 ml "Naturalyte" with spinosad.
https://cgi.ebay.com/Conserve-Natural...3286.m20.l1116
Only like you sprayed once before flower and ALL thrips was gone for 2-3 weeks, but then they came back slowly and now I wont spray because of flower, like you. But it really looks like a kick ass product, and no visible sideeffects like the stinky sticky neem oil (hate that pretty much)

Hope you dont mind me bumping your thread with the "spinosad ad" hehe.

Cheers n stay safe

blackone · 10-03-2008, 06:59 AM

Yeah - pyrethrum also knocks them down for a couple of weeks if you apply it thoroughly. I have considered spinosad but have been a little too paranoid ordering it from outside Europe (no idea if customs know what it's for - or if they know that it's illegal to import pesticides).
I've since found a local source but my problem is that I'm always in flower

If I wasn't growing perpetual then I could easily spray them down in week 2-3 flower and they would be almost finished before the thrips would have time to build a population again.
I might consider using it in the veg room... at least then they won't go into the flowering room full of thrips and there might also be some systemic effect (I think I remember reading that spinosad also kills the larvae that feeds off the plants but I'm not sure)
Next year sometime I'm gonna have to shut down the flowering room temporarily because of going on vacation - I'll probably try and exterminate the population totally then but atm it's live and let live...

Smeden · 10-03-2008, 08:33 AM

Hi again

Totally agree with you. But If you get too tired of them... I think that 2 or 3 runs of spinosad kills it all. Again, theres none visible sideeffect. And I put about 1 cl to mix 0,5 liter water. (the day after, none "kalk" spots, smell or anything. So I allmost think it wouldnt make any damage...

About the shipping. About the pesticides your prop right, but as long as I use only 1 cl and have ernough to spray 2-3 times - im not so concerned about the environment.
When you do some searches on spinosad, it appears as an normal "house fly" cure. (in powderform, where small amount should be placed in small concentrations = no more flys) so dont think the customs would think cannabis. And its also "just" an normal product agains thrips... etc.

Cheers and have a nice weekend, when time comes...

P.S. Just found this thread, all only positive feedback on the spinosad. And one says its a living bacteria = harmless... (for your information)
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.p...light=spinosad

10-01-2008, 10:18 PM	#1
blackone Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,455	My 600W perpetual grow It's been a while since I posted pics here - used to do diaries but I kinda got lazy I don't have any chapters any more now since I grow perpetual;p It's a lot of fun harvesting every 1-3 weeks but of course there are problems too - pests never rest and since I've always got some plants in late flower spraying is a no-no. I've got thrips and they do hurt my plants a little but I kinda just let them live now... might think about some predatory bugs. First an overview of the whole room: Some tops are missing - here they are - some swt#3 head colas I harvested to let the lower buds mature: A single fms grapefruit plant from clone day 45 flower - for some reason it's doing a bit better than the other clones of the same pheno: Check out this sidebud - this is where a lot of the weight is in this strain. __________________ Inside: 1KW Indoor 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2009 2009 2008 2007 2007 Outside: Late start guerilla 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2008 Low energy ground coupled cooler/dehumidifier? Keeping nordic outdoor strains as mothers. Let the voice of reason chime - Lemmy Kilmister Last edited by blackone; 10-01-2008 at 10:24 PM..
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10-01-2008, 10:29 PM	#2
guest101 Guest Posts: n/a	Hey blackone!! Nice bud right there my friend. I never liked the ideia of harvesting every 2-4 week or somethin cause i couldnt use the cab to dry the weed with less smell, couldnt optimize light and cannopy and wouldnt cure my weed ... Hearing your story sure adds a couple more factors! LOL Had to share it bro!! hehe Nice sog with lots of fat colas!!! Do you smoke the bugs or they get lost once theyr habitat runs out of life lol ?
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10-01-2008, 10:34 PM	#3
blackone Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,455	Hey Frank thanks for stopping by. Well the thrips are so small I don't know what happens to them They leave the buds alone .. perhaps they die a sticky death just like fungus gnats. I used to have a lot of gnats and although they didn't hurt my plants they were a bitch to find in a resinated bud. They seem to be gone now... I wonder if my trichomes killed them all __________________ Inside: 1KW Indoor 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2009 2009 2008 2007 2007 Outside: Late start guerilla 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2008 Low energy ground coupled cooler/dehumidifier? Keeping nordic outdoor strains as mothers. Let the voice of reason chime - Lemmy Kilmister
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10-02-2008, 12:22 AM	#5
Dr. Bloom Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 465	That's pretty sweet man! What kind of light do you use for vegging? If you don't mind me asking. Keep it growin'. -Dr. B
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10-02-2008, 07:02 AM	#6
blackone Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,455	Thanks for taking a look people. I'm vegging under 436W of 6500K flourescents - it's working quite well as long as I keep working to have those veggies close to the light - sometimes they get a little burned when I get lazy and let them touch the tubes. Atm I'm growing Bubblegum (Bifrost from sagaseeds), Swt#3 and grapefruit. Got a couple of revegged clones of a Satori pheno that I decided to hang on to - was actually flowering my moms but changed my mind because it's such a wonderful plant to grow. I also have a few plants of my own cross: SatoriXswt#3. I also had a couple of gfXswt but i kinda got the seedlings of my crosses mixed up... and now the 6 plants I have all seem Satori dominant so the gf crosses must have been among the males. __________________ Inside: 1KW Indoor 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2009 2009 2008 2007 2007 Outside: Late start guerilla 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2008 Low energy ground coupled cooler/dehumidifier? Keeping nordic outdoor strains as mothers. Let the voice of reason chime - Lemmy Kilmister*
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10-02-2008, 04:28 PM	#7
Young Giver Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 142	perpetual grows are very convienient so i hope that you keep it that way.....staying very clean is a big factor.... __________________ Don't Mess With Smokey Mac Pot
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10-02-2008, 09:25 PM	#8
Smeden The more dedicated - the more medicated! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 317	Hi Blackone m8 Nice crop you pop... looks dank dank like always from your side. How many plants, you start up each 2-3 weeks interval? About the thrips... I had big problems myself. And after trying; homade soap, boght soap and neem oil (none of these really made a difference) I bought 250 ml "Naturalyte" with spinosad. https://cgi.ebay.com/Conserve-Natural...3286.m20.l1116 Only like you sprayed once before flower and ALL thrips was gone for 2-3 weeks, but then they came back slowly and now I wont spray because of flower, like you. But it really looks like a kick ass product, and no visible sideeffects like the stinky sticky neem oil (hate that pretty much) Hope you dont mind me bumping your thread with the "spinosad ad" hehe. Cheers n stay safe __________________ Sharing Is Caring And Caring Is Sharing!
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10-03-2008, 06:59 AM	#9
blackone Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,455	Yeah - pyrethrum also knocks them down for a couple of weeks if you apply it thoroughly. I have considered spinosad but have been a little too paranoid ordering it from outside Europe (no idea if customs know what it's for - or if they know that it's illegal to import pesticides). I've since found a local source but my problem is that I'm always in flower If I wasn't growing perpetual then I could easily spray them down in week 2-3 flower and they would be almost finished before the thrips would have time to build a population again. I might consider using it in the veg room... at least then they won't go into the flowering room full of thrips and there might also be some systemic effect (I think I remember reading that spinosad also kills the larvae that feeds off the plants but I'm not sure) Next year sometime I'm gonna have to shut down the flowering room temporarily because of going on vacation - I'll probably try and exterminate the population totally then but atm it's live and let live... __________________ Inside: 1KW Indoor 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2009 2009 2008 2007 2007 Outside: Late start guerilla 2013 2012 2011 2010 2009 2008 Low energy ground coupled cooler/dehumidifier? Keeping nordic outdoor strains as mothers. Let the voice of reason chime - Lemmy Kilmister Last edited by blackone; 10-03-2008 at 07:04 AM..
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10-03-2008, 08:33 AM	#10
Smeden The more dedicated - the more medicated! Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 317	Hi again Totally agree with you. But If you get too tired of them... I think that 2 or 3 runs of spinosad kills it all. Again, theres none visible sideeffect. And I put about 1 cl to mix 0,5 liter water. (the day after, none "kalk" spots, smell or anything. So I allmost think it wouldnt make any damage... About the shipping. About the pesticides your prop right, but as long as I use only 1 cl and have ernough to spray 2-3 times - im not so concerned about the environment. When you do some searches on spinosad, it appears as an normal "house fly" cure. (in powderform, where small amount should be placed in small concentrations = no more flys) so dont think the customs would think cannabis. And its also "just" an normal product agains thrips... etc. Cheers and have a nice weekend, when time comes... P.S. Just found this thread, all only positive feedback on the spinosad. And one says its a living bacteria = harmless... (for your information) https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.p...light=spinosad __________________ Sharing Is Caring And Caring Is Sharing! Last edited by Smeden; 10-03-2008 at 09:16 AM..
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