flushing part II: what about in soil? - Indoor Grows - Soil - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

Telepod · 03-08-2004, 06:48 AM

I grow in soil (organic nutrients), and have experimented with "flushing" (i.e. massive leaching of the soil with plain water) versus watering nomally until the end of harvest and just phasing out the nutrients about 2 weeks before the end. I myself haven't noticed much difference, and I have heard conflicting opinions from others. What do you think?

Does it make sense/ make a difference to try leaching nutrients or whatnot out of a soil grow, or should one just control feeding and try to get the plants to exaust their supplies by chop-time? I was going to ask this in another thread on leaching for aero/hydro but it really is a different question & I didn't want to hijack... any opinions will be welcome.

Cheers,

-Telepod

Captain Canibus · 03-08-2004, 06:55 AM

I would not bother to flush an organic soil grow.

HOT CARGO · 03-08-2004, 07:38 AM

Flushin soil is not good.

If i was you Telepod i lissen to Captain Canibus . i never did it but i dont see how can you flush soil mix . it may take 100 gal of water per gal of soil to get it clean. and than you still will have to see if that help or make it worse.

good luck

Telepod · 03-08-2004, 09:10 AM

Leaching the soil before harvest is something I tried on my first grow years ago... nowadays I feed with PB Pro until about 2 weeks before harvest, then give pure water until the end. Works just great.

Thanks for the feedback!

Crazy Composer · 03-08-2004, 06:36 PM

I would never harvest without leaching. But that's just me. In nature, the roots are flushed thoroughly every time the clouds open up and dump cats and dogs on the garden...

Telepod · 03-08-2004, 07:58 PM

CC: I like your work, clearly you have found methods that do well for you. When you leach before harvest, when do you do it and how much water do you use? Do you notice a decribable difference between plants you haven't done this to and those you have; or have you always leached at harvest from the get-go?

Sorry for the interrogation, but I am trying to find out what people do and why, to futher my understanding of cannabis culture as a whole. Thanks!

-Tele

Hippo · 03-08-2004, 08:18 PM

my take on it is, if u dont flush u gonna leave behind alot of npk, whether that be organic or chemical its all the same at the end of the day.
Imo if u dont flush or atleast just water for 10-14 days at the finish, u will have higher amounts of nutes still in the plants, where as if u water only for last 2 weeks, the plant will use up nutes stored whithin itself, hence yellowing at the end of the cycle.
To me that makes perfect sense, saves u some nutes and makes your end product alot smoother.
I definatly wouldn't fert a plant to the chop date, no way.
Hippo

Crazy Composer · 03-08-2004, 11:28 PM

Growth slows during the flushing period because the nutes have been flushed to a greatly diminished concentration. A plant that keeps getting fed will keep growing where possible, but will kill your lungs and burn terribly if you smoke it without properly leaching - even organic.

About good taste and burn... Remember that a slow, dark drying period makes for a smooth smoke. The newbie 3-5 day open air dry will dry the herb out too quickly and cause a harsh taste and bad burn.

Another mistake is to remove the buds from the plant for drying. Leaving the buds on the stem allows the buds to access moisture for a lot longer, making the dry slow to a crawl - and that's what you really want. Patience! If you want to remove the buds for drying, then dry slowly in some other way, like keeping the buds in a cardboard box or a paper bag. Just don't provide a mold environment.

The sugars and other nasty burning stuff in there breaks down when moisture is present for long enough

HOT CARGO · 03-08-2004, 11:49 PM

definitely
Crazy Composer you are rite on the drying method . i let my plants dry for as long as possible. I see how many of you find a need to flush you plants. i never do it because i dont use any ferts. in first month i give them good dose of bat guano and after that is pure water till the end. This is the way i like to grow and iam sure there may be many new extras i can do to make things better but its hard to teach old dog new tricks. Love your work CC keep those buds getting bigger.

peace

HC

Hippo · 03-09-2004, 12:48 AM

i dunno how well your plants yeild for u, imvho u would be wise to work out a proper feed schedule, rather than giving them one huge fertilising.

03-08-2004, 06:48 AM	#1
Telepod 'Frop Doktor Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Pleasure Saucer X Posts: 81	flushing part II: what about in soil? I grow in soil (organic nutrients), and have experimented with "flushing" (i.e. massive leaching of the soil with plain water) versus watering nomally until the end of harvest and just phasing out the nutrients about 2 weeks before the end. I myself haven't noticed much difference, and I have heard conflicting opinions from others. What do you think? Does it make sense/ make a difference to try leaching nutrients or whatnot out of a soil grow, or should one just control feeding and try to get the plants to exaust their supplies by chop-time? I was going to ask this in another thread on leaching for aero/hydro but it really is a different question & I didn't want to hijack... any opinions will be welcome. Cheers, -Telepod __________________ Love doesn't dominate. It cultivates. -- Goethe ^^^
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03-08-2004, 06:55 AM	#2
Captain Canibus Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: US-Midwest Posts: 318	I would not bother to flush an organic soil grow. __________________ The man who says it can't be done shouldn't interfer with the one who is doing it. To be the best YOU can be, You are only competing with yourself.
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03-08-2004, 07:38 AM	#3
HOT CARGO The Best Is Yet To Come Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sixth state Posts: 1,954	Flushin soil is not good. If i was you Telepod i lissen to Captain Canibus . i never did it but i dont see how can you flush soil mix . it may take 100 gal of water per gal of soil to get it clean. and than you still will have to see if that help or make it worse. good luck __________________ Its not what you can do for your plants, its what your plants can do for you.
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03-08-2004, 09:10 AM	#4
Telepod 'Frop Doktor Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Pleasure Saucer X Posts: 81	right on y'all Leaching the soil before harvest is something I tried on my first grow years ago... nowadays I feed with PB Pro until about 2 weeks before harvest, then give pure water until the end. Works just great. Thanks for the feedback! __________________ Love doesn't dominate. It cultivates. -- Goethe ^^^
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03-08-2004, 06:36 PM	#5
Crazy Composer Mashkiki Gitigay Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 4,018	I would never harvest without leaching. But that's just me. In nature, the roots are flushed thoroughly every time the clouds open up and dump cats and dogs on the garden... __________________ "Just remember, Lahey, what comes around is all around!"
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03-08-2004, 07:58 PM	#6
Telepod 'Frop Doktor Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Pleasure Saucer X Posts: 81	CC: I like your work, clearly you have found methods that do well for you. When you leach before harvest, when do you do it and how much water do you use? Do you notice a decribable difference between plants you haven't done this to and those you have; or have you always leached at harvest from the get-go? Sorry for the interrogation, but I am trying to find out what people do and why, to futher my understanding of cannabis culture as a whole. Thanks! -Tele __________________ Love doesn't dominate. It cultivates. -- Goethe ^^^
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03-08-2004, 08:18 PM	#7
Hippo Old Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In tha garden...UK Posts: 234	my take on it is, if u dont flush u gonna leave behind alot of npk, whether that be organic or chemical its all the same at the end of the day. Imo if u dont flush or atleast just water for 10-14 days at the finish, u will have higher amounts of nutes still in the plants, where as if u water only for last 2 weeks, the plant will use up nutes stored whithin itself, hence yellowing at the end of the cycle. To me that makes perfect sense, saves u some nutes and makes your end product alot smoother. I definatly wouldn't fert a plant to the chop date, no way. Hippo
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03-08-2004, 11:28 PM	#8
Crazy Composer Mashkiki Gitigay Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maine Posts: 4,018	Growth slows during the flushing period because the nutes have been flushed to a greatly diminished concentration. A plant that keeps getting fed will keep growing where possible, but will kill your lungs and burn terribly if you smoke it without properly leaching - even organic. About good taste and burn... Remember that a slow, dark drying period makes for a smooth smoke. The newbie 3-5 day open air dry will dry the herb out too quickly and cause a harsh taste and bad burn. Another mistake is to remove the buds from the plant for drying. Leaving the buds on the stem allows the buds to access moisture for a lot longer, making the dry slow to a crawl - and that's what you really want. Patience! If you want to remove the buds for drying, then dry slowly in some other way, like keeping the buds in a cardboard box or a paper bag. Just don't provide a mold environment. The sugars and other nasty burning stuff in there breaks down when moisture is present for long enough __________________ "Just remember, Lahey, what comes around is all around!"
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03-08-2004, 11:49 PM	#9
HOT CARGO The Best Is Yet To Come Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sixth state Posts: 1,954	definitely Crazy Composer you are rite on the drying method . i let my plants dry for as long as possible. I see how many of you find a need to flush you plants. i never do it because i dont use any ferts. in first month i give them good dose of bat guano and after that is pure water till the end. This is the way i like to grow and iam sure there may be many new extras i can do to make things better but its hard to teach old dog new tricks. Love your work CC keep those buds getting bigger. peace HC __________________ Its not what you can do for your plants, its what your plants can do for you.
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03-09-2004, 12:48 AM	#10
Hippo Old Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: In tha garden...UK Posts: 234	i dunno how well your plants yeild for u, imvho u would be wise to work out a proper feed schedule, rather than giving them one huge fertilising.
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