Growing Shrooms

WHIPEDMEAT · Jul 11, 2020

nono, the suffering part with inoculation and spawn procedure can not be avoided,

i just asked, if there was only one step further with the cakes you have in hands right now, to make it crumble or sliced in equal pieces,
than you put a thin layer of vermiculte coco mixture (i can t tell exact ratio, because it must be adjusted how much time do you have daily to make a look on them,)

than you put the crunches of cake into a big plastic box like the one used for colonization and cover it evenly with the cocovermi in another 1-1.5 cm ,
than cover it and put it back to the colonization chamber for a week or two,
and you can put it into the fridge for a few days cold shock, or keep them in that state for a period, than start fruiting when you wish,

i used microwave to sterilize the wet mixture of casing, vermiculite plus coco coir, than added gypsum when it was cool enough to mix

dddaver · Jul 11, 2020

Sunshineinabag said:
Dav you have any idea which strain of fungus you'd like to fruit? Like blue meanies, PE or central American strains.....

Actually no. I have zero knowledge about any of this

G.O. Joe · Jul 11, 2020

Shmavis said:
But for greatest potency it seems it's best to leave cubensis behind. Psilocybe azurescens supposedly is the most potent. But a whole other animal to grow. I enjoyed reading this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science...rip-on-the-most-potent-magic-mushroom/561860/

Azurescens and cyanescens are maybe twice as potent, and do well outdoors in some places. Cyanescens grows on wood indoors if the environment can be provided, and mycelium can be kept alive in a fridge for a long time without contamination worries - but it tastes worse.

Years ago I camped at and explored the parks mentioned in the article looking for a spore print, and what was said is true about habitat and what it takes to find them. A whole fresh baby gives a buzz good for being in public without paranoia, driving, but maybe not while looking for more mushrooms. Everyone gave me that look that someone who is square and knows what you're up to would give.

Literally every local knows why people are walking there, and arrests started soon after publication of the discovery. Sketchy dude hiking alone has different optics with a dog on a leash. The article says maybe dogs seek to trip balls - a shroom detecting dog would be a great help finding these in the wild.

WHIPEDMEAT · Jul 11, 2020

i see no problem in eating more cubensis

5 g of bone dry cubensis harvested at peak of psilocibin production
would put you into other dimension for sure.
if you ingest it with empty stomach of course
i see great differences in growing methods, time of harvesting drying and few other factors, which can make potency decrease ,,

Hookahhead · Jul 12, 2020

It’s rainy season where I am, and the local farms have fungi popping everywhere. There are about 10 different species of mushrooms growing, but only 2 are good. So you really have to know what you’re doing. The locals think I’m crazy, both for picking and consuming mushrooms growing in cow/horse shit haha. Knowledge is power!

Psilocybe cubensis

Panaeolus cyanescens

Pan cyans grow in the exact same substrate and environmental conditions as cubensis. They are smaller, but roughly 2-3x more potent, and often described as a “cleaner” trip with less body load. Here is a bowl of mostly Panaelous cyanescens with one lonely cube.

Hold Your Fire · Jul 12, 2020

Damn Hookahhead enjoy those fruits!!!! Those pan cans are going to provide one hell of a ride I bet!!!

My 2 cents.

Buy a pressure cooker. You don't need one, but it's worth the money.

A $90 presto produced lbs.

Learn to work with agar and bulk substrate asap.

Avoid kits. Better and cheaper to buy supplies separate.

Grow cubes(at first) they are much more forgiving.

Don't get hung up on variety, for the most part a cube is a cube.

There are exceptions ie penis envy. They are a bit trickier tho'.

Cleanliness is your friend.

I'd recommend a still air box, unless you're in it for the long haul, then I'd build a flow hood and maybe invest in a pressure cooker upgrade.

I never got into it as far as liquid culture , slants for storage or isolation work.

It was a great experience, but my heart wasn't into it (I didn't eat them) and it took time away from my cannabis grow.

I still have fully colonized petri's and feel awful not using them...

Hold Your Fire · Jul 12, 2020

Dammit pic is upside down

This one had a butterfly

mexweed · Jul 12, 2020

I have read before that when the veil fully opens/drops spores it hurts potency, it's better to harvest with round caps than opened flat ones, just as the veil is barely starting to tear

greenluv707 · Jul 12, 2020

amazing thread...... :chin:

i need to grow some myself its been too long , they use to free my mind for me.need to get back to that spot. :chin:

Guest · Jul 12, 2020

I am in the midst of a couple of experiments with a syringe of Lizard King liquid culture. Direct to wet cardboard, direct to cold pasteurized straw, and the Uncle Ben's tec that I mentioned in an earlier post.
I think my medium once I get spawn is going to be the pasteurized straw. Really easy and cheap to prep. Just a little hydrated lime in water and a 1+hour soak.
I'll chime in with my progress.

Grapefruitroop · Jul 12, 2020

OP i grew shrooms for a living for few years and everything i know i learned from shroomery.org

That forum is actually much more scientifically updated than all the mycologist books that are around nowadays...
Stamets info are dated and in some cases wrong.
There are some peeps there that their pratical knowledge can challenge the most qualified mycologist! no joke!
Check for Bodhisattva, hamloaf many more i dont remember...
Shroomery is an infinite well of knowledge and is much less ego/bullshit driven that any weed forum!

If you want to start the most important item is your Pressure Cooker...AllAmerican for sure...focus on that...the rest it will come slowly..
Also dont get intimitdated by agar works....its much more easy that what it looks...and is gona allow you to select, clean and clone quality genetics.

Chi13 · Jul 12, 2020

After a 30 year hiatus from tripping, I grew some a few batches a few years ago with success. I have been thinking about doing it again.

I just did some tiny pf tek jars but worked a treat. Lots of little mushrooms.

I've already got a couple of tips from this thread. Been a bit intimidated by agar so far but must get my head around it.

As others have said, sterility is everything. Can be a pain in the arse, especially making syringes from prints, but so interesting once things start to grow. As rewarding to grow as cannabis in a very different way.

Stizo · Jul 12, 2020

Grapefruitroop said:
OP i grew shrooms for a living for few years and everything i know i learned from shroomery.org

That forum is actually much more scientifically updated than all the mycologist books that are around nowadays...
Stamets info are dated and in some cases wrong.
There are some peeps there that their pratical knowledge can challenge the most qualified mycologist! no joke!
Check for Bodhisattva, hamloaf many more i dont remember...
Shroomery is an infinite well of knowledge and is much less ego/bullshit driven that any weed forum!

If you want to start the most important item is your Pressure Cooker...AllAmerican for sure...focus on that...the rest it will come slowly..
Also dont get intimitdated by agar works....its much more easy that what it looks...and is gona allow you to select, clean and clone quality genetics.

Is that an old spiral tribe logo in your sig? That brought back some memories. Can see why you're in to shrooms if you liked spiral tribe.

Hold Your Fire · Jul 12, 2020

Grapefruitroop said:
everything i know i learned from shroomery.org

Check for Bodhisattva,

Shroomery is an infinite well of knowledge and is much less ego/bullshit driven that any weed forum! .

Bmac1 · Jul 13, 2020

There is a spore drop on IG today of some rare specimens that I may try to get in on. I guess just like buying a pack of beans.

Badfishy1 · Jul 13, 2020

Chi13 said:
After a 30 year hiatus from tripping, I grew some a few batches a few years ago with success. I have been thinking about doing it again.

I just did some tiny pf tek jars but worked a treat. Lots of little mushrooms.

I've already got a couple of tips from this thread. Been a bit intimidated by agar so far but must get my head around it.

As others have said, sterility is everything. Can be a pain in the arse, especially making syringes from prints, but so interesting once things start to grow. As rewarding to grow as cannabis in a very different way.

If my 10 year old can work agar transfers of oysters, seems to me you too could work agar.

Badfishy1 · Jul 13, 2020

Bmac1 said:
There is a spore drop on IG today of some rare specimens that I may try to get in on. I guess just like buying a pack of beans.

ITW?

Bmac1 · Jul 13, 2020

That's the one. Its live now but I dont think I am ready for the plunge just yet. I need to do more reading.

Badfishy1 · Jul 13, 2020

Hookahhead said:
It’s rainy season where I am, and the local farms have fungi popping everywhere. There are about 10 different species of mushrooms growing, but only 2 are good. So you really have to know what you’re doing. The locals think I’m crazy, both for picking and consuming mushrooms growing in cow/horse shit haha. Knowledge is power!

Psilocybe cubensis
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Panaeolus cyanescens
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Pan cyans grow in the exact same substrate and environmental conditions as cubensis. They are smaller, but roughly 2-3x more potent, and often described as a “cleaner” trip with less body load. Here is a bowl of mostly Panaelous cyanescens with one lonely cube.

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Would love to work that top cube from print.

Badfishy1 · Jul 13, 2020

Bmac1 said:
That's the one. Its live now but I dont think I am ready for the plunge just yet. I need to do more reading.

Those rustys caught my eye. ITW and Bas are working magic. Watch docs dank too. He will be dropping some gems from poo god

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