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Orient Express,Kali China,MxPCK,Malawi.

Consolidated

Well-known member
Hello to everyone.
It's my first time trying to grow some ACE strain.
The seeds are 2 OE, K.C.,M X PCK and Malawi.
OE and KC are today 10 days, and the rest of Ace gang be born today.


Yesterday
and today

They are in 330 ml cups and soil Lightmix BIO
OE -low humidity ?-

I use to grow outdoor, cause of Mediteranean summers, and its my first time indoor -second i had a "sort" grow some Pyramid autos, to chek my gear,temps ect-.
I'am still trying to control -in my mind- and to manage the small area 76x76x180cm. -hps 400w dual- about veg time and the upcoming stretch.
Biobizz my choice since '98,some molasses not somthing special.
Not only i want but i'll need - cause of my limited experience- yours comments,tips ect.
Sorry for my English, but i think (wish) you understand what i mean.
I have to thank Dubi and Ace crew, all the growers (especialy Ace lovers), for the usefull infos in a lot of threads.
And finally special thanks to Orfeas, Syd Barret, Macedon, New fish.
Cheers.:smoke:
See ya soon.
 

deepwaterdude

Active member
Wecome aboard the Ace train, Consolidated! You're in fer a ride;)

Anyhoo, the pics look something like overwatering and maybe they don't love the 400hps to veg under, or it's too close, though folks do fine vegging with hps if the environment's right.

What soil are you using, and how much are you feeding the babes? What water do you use and do you pH? Biobizz is fine stuff, just cut the quantities drastically from what is indicated on the bottle and go up from there when you have happy babies. That said, they're not in danger of dying today, they should just be perkier;)
 
G

Guest

Hello Conso!Wish you good luck with your indoor attempt!:)
Great choice of strains man!All of them special in their own way.

My bet for the leaves is humidity as you said.I had seedlings from veg with hps and they didn't mind,as long as it is at a distance that doesn't overheat them.What are your temperatures?They like it warm in their first days.This is one of my major concerns for my upcoming grow...Is the ventilation working full time?It would help with temps and humidity if you only turn it on for 10 minutes every two hours or so.

What are your plans regarding veg time and training?

Καλό δρόμο ρε!
:kos:
 

dubi

ACE Seeds Breeder
Vendor
Veteran
Hi Consolidated :tiphat:

Thanks to you for your support and for choosing our genetics for your grow! Great selection of genetics to get introduced into our catalog.

Please, keep us updated and let us know if you have any doubt during their development. Kind regards!
 

Consolidated

Well-known member
Hi to everyone.
Thanks Deepwaterdude for the "wellcome" to Ace train and be sure i'll enjoy the ride...anyway.
The soil in cups is Lightmix Biobizz and i don't feed them 'till now.
Maybe they had and overwatering, thank for the tips my friend.

Hi Syd ... it's very kind of you. The temp's are 20 C-28 C when hps is on, the distance is about 45cm.
For the dark hours i have a ceramic heater lamp 150w which rise the temp 2C-4C if the small fan is on -i use it for the heater- if the temps are low and i am in my place i turn it of. I'll try to turn of the ventilation (275m3/h) for one hour and 15min on or i 'll use the small one...
The 3 of the girls i planed to transpot them in 9L pots Allmix Bio after couple of days. About veg time 2 more weeks for all and i planed one OE toping and lst the other two, but will see..

Dubi thanks first for the great genetics -and with 100% germ- .
I'll try my best for my first indoor attempt and ofcourse i need the help all of you.

From top left KC, OE#2,OE#1 12 DAYS, MxPCK,and Malawi 2 days
 

Consolidated

Well-known member
Hello there.
First i have to write something about my previous post.
That day i was really sad ...'cause of my plants.
But i thought "my man you have to drink that poison 'till last drop".
When i saw my post i was freaking out. Yes, i know -turn of ??? offf- or -OE toping ???- etc. Preview post...what is that ?

And i felt sorry for the sadly view.
Anyway.
The next day from my post -yesterday afternoon, two OE and a KC moved to 9L pots full of fresh Allmix soil of Biobizz.
- I write "fresh" because Lightmix in small cups, was open before more than 3 months-.

The soil in cups was full of roots without use of rizotonics, exept some drops of Rootit in one watering.
And today morning i saw that they are much better, now i think had only low humidity problems...
Tomorrow i'll transpot the other two litle girls because i don't know how good is my Lightmix ?-100 days-.
Some fotos All the gang, KC,OE#2,OE#1.

Thanks. Cheers :joint:
 

Consolidated

Well-known member
Hi guys.
The torture by soil-poison,its something which ihave read about,and now i saw it live to my plants.
The next day of my last post, i transplant Malawi and MxPCK to final pots at 5th day of they're lifes,and took about 4-6 days to grow normally, 'couse they develop some roots. -i think-
The bigger of them (OE#1,#2 and KC) had a lot of roots and 2-3 days after the transplatation start grow properly.

Yesterday, i decide to give some LST at OE#1 and cut the top of the other,above 4th node.
Something like this.
OE#1 a day earlyer. Yes/day today,a bit more lst 'couse stand up.
OE#2 before toping
 
G

Guest

They look good brother!:)
What do you mean by soil poisoning?The leftover light mix?
Maybe you could need a bit more veg time,but better see again at the end of the month as you said.
Peace!
 

dubi

ACE Seeds Breeder
Vendor
Veteran
Hi Consolidated,

Bio Bizz All Mix soil is many times too hot for seedlings or small clones,
i have suffered the same problem as you in the past and it sucks :(

I will do recommend you to just continue watering them with just good quality water in correct PH (6.5-6.8) and EC around 0.3 (well, maybe just add a little of Rhizotonic, around 0.5 ml/liter to help the plants to develop more roots and grow, so they are can accept more nutrients. Then see how they react in the upcoming days. Respect also the dry periods and don't overwater your plants.

Please, keep us updated!
 
G

Guest

Hi Consolidated,

Bio Bizz All Mix soil is many times too hot for seedlings or small clones,
i have suffered the same problem as you in the past and it sucks :(

I will do recommend you to just continue watering them with just good quality water in correct PH (6.5-6.8) and EC around 0.3 (well, maybe just add a little of Rhizotonic, around 0.5 ml/liter to help the plants to develop more roots and grow, so they are can accept more nutrients. Then see how they react in the upcoming days. Respect also the dry periods and don't overwater your plants.

Please, keep us updated!
Hey dubi!When would you say is the right time for transplanting to all-mix(and in the final soil mix generally)?Thanks!
 

Consolidated

Well-known member
Hello to all of you.
My PC is down 5 days ago, i post this from a friend of mine.
Thanks dubi and Syd for yours kind words, when my PC 'llbe OK i 'll answer to you ...
I planed to write a lot but i cant now.
Some fotos
KC 3 dayw ago
OE#1 OE#2top/
 

Consolidated

Well-known member
And MxPCK and last Malawi which i decide to top her-its the first time i wanna say fuck i missed it- for the level of canopy, and 10 days more veg and we'll see
MxPCK 2 days ago

Malawi

Thanks and see you.
 

Consolidated

Well-known member
Thanks Dubi for looking in, the transplantation was cause i saw some deficiencys at lower leafs of OEs
Syd about veg time . 'till seems OK in my eyes.
Subrovka if you mean Malawi,i topped her yesterday..
 

Consolidated

Well-known member
And dubi KC saw no sign of defisiencys- same soil and age-
They got water when i feel the pots, light in my hands.
Malawi cause of the pride appearance -much longer node length - i dont like to tied her down, and i topped/FIM her at last node (6th or 7th) , and if she'll need training she'll get it.
Thanks and see ya soon.
 
G

Guest

Fuck!You missed bro! :biggrin: Only once I have maneged to do it but it was really a miss :laughing:

The girls look great, you seem to have them under control now :) Just a bit drooping with the OE's,but maybe it's the training.

Peace !
 

Consolidated

Well-known member
Thanks Syd, OE#1 and KC,need some defoliation 'cause the lower leafs touch the soil.
I dont know bro if i make a topping or i miss it.

Malawi yesterday

MxPCK Yesterday

I hope tomorrow my pc 'll return to my place.
See you then.
 

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