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Old 04-26-2019, 02:31 PM #1351
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That was fed a mixture of raw salts. Maxigro produced the same results in terms of lush, green growth with no deficiencies. RO water + .75 tsp/gal maxigro (I don't weight these particular salt mixtures) + calimagic @ 2.5 ml/gal 1.6 EC/800 ppm in coco, hand-watered @ 5.6 pH. I use the same levels on multiple heavy sativas and do get some burnt tips in growth phase but not enough to ass with dilution. Be warned that this pheno of BH I've been running is a confirmed hog. I could get away with more feeding and see zero nutrient burn. I don't fully subscribe to the "less is more" crowd. When under intense lighting or the sun I feed heavy in growth phases and maintain dark growth otherwise I get yellowing/unhappy plants. I dial back after a few weeks in flower.

What are you growing in? Soil? I could be of more use with that information.
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I'm in promix with about 25% Happy frog. I add SRP Gypsum and lime and soak with orca thats my myco, and mammoth P biota. Usually that sits for a month before use indoors. Indoors I use a 25 to 1 ratio of water to fish hydrolysate and have been adding kool bloom to get the P and K up in the last few weeks.
I have started working with salts this season, got a gold dealers scale and am working on a blend for outdoor.
In the growers lounge on this site I got a recipe posted by Jidoka and have used it on my indoors a few times with good results so far
I put 5 gallons of tap water in a 6 gallon bucket and add.
15g Cano4
8.2g MKP
6g epsom salts
I intend to use this ratio outdoors on the Bangi clones just cut. They go outdoors in late june here at 38 degrees. Jidoka suggest scale up to a higher EC if you want but keep the ratio. I bought some bone char and sulfate of potash to topdress with outdoor but am unsure on how much to use. The char is from fertrell at 0-12-0. I have three different methods this year for outdoor.
1 is a 30 gal tub which nest inside another 30 gal with 8 inches of water in the bottom one. There's a net pot in the bottom of the top tub filled with rockwool
2 is a 65 gallon shortie fabric bed
3 I just dug it out on the ridge and am mounding up 60 gal of my used mix.
Last year I got 12 oz of bangi from one of the tubs with the cut I saved. Other pheno's in the shortie had much less.
Thanks for sharing your methods and happy growing.
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End of day 15 flower. Starting to do things. Many lower bud sites hidden beneath canopy which will now be defoliated. Sticks of bud all the way down. I will also pull off the lower 1/3 sucker shoots right now. Frankly, this plant is easy mode compared to other things I grow. It is not fussy. It is fed 'raw salts' with 4-1-5 (NPK) and 4 to 1 Ca to Mg ratio. I try for 4 ppm Iron and 70ish sulfur. 1.6 EC/800ppm. In addition, I did foliar spray with calcium-25 and a root drench + foliar of chitosan @ 1g/gal. I will continue with the chitosan on roots for a while.


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End of day 15 flower. Starting to do things. Many lower bud sites hidden beneath canopy which will now be defoliated. Sticks of bud all the way down. I will also pull off the lower 1/3 sucker shoots right now. Frankly, this plant is easy mode compared to other things I grow. It is not fussy. It is fed 'raw salts' with 4-1-5 (NPK) and 4 to 1 Ca to Mg ratio. I try for 4 ppm Iron and 70ish sulfur. 1.6 EC/800ppm. In addition, I did foliar spray with calcium-25 and a root drench + foliar of chitosan @ 1g/gal. I will continue with the chitosan on roots for a while.

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Thanks for sharing your method, I am just learning to use some salts to augment my biota. I have not seen a feed formula with that little P but the proof is in the pudding and your plants look mighty fine. I think my issues indoors are all from underfeeding mainly K, Since I have used my current formula I haven't seen any of the issues I had earlier. I am feeding at 1.1 and plan to follow your lead and go up to 1.5 or so with my next feeding of my mom. I cut clones last week and have half dozen with roots showing. I plan to put the best 3 outdoors around the middle of June and run the rest indoors later on in the summer. Do you top or just let her make one big cola? Last year I topped her at about 14 inches for two main stalks. She split down the middle in a storm before I got a cage on her. This year I'll be on that early. Good growing and thanks for sharing your girl.
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Keep in mind I am in coco so my thought process is tailored towards the reality of that medium. However, calcium is universal. I see a ton of people with calcium deficiency or locked out calcium due to incorrect ratios of other nutrients.

Outdoors I put out bushes. I do not defoliate outside in most situations. I will stake large branches away from center to open the canopy up if needed.
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Keep in mind I am in coco so my thought process is tailored towards the reality of that medium. However, calcium is universal. I see a ton of people with calcium deficiency or locked out calcium due to incorrect ratios of other nutrients.

Outdoors I put out bushes. I do not defoliate outside in most situations. I will stake large branches away from center to open the canopy up if needed.
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I think our ca inputs are similar right now I am at 150 ca to 30 mg about 5-1. I got a trick from growingcrazy where I put a cup of gypsum in 32 oz of fish hydrolysate , mix til disolved and add that to 5 gal of water. I do this the last 4 weeks of veg and continue through 2nd week of flower. I add liquid kool bloom to bring that up to 2-4-2. I have been aiming for that balance all this year. I'm not seeing all the issues I had with a lower EC. This current run I am dropping Ca to 1/2 of K at the end of the stretch, I am using Biomin Ca as drench in late flower along with some MKP .I am relying on the residual N from all that fish for the rest of the grow and not adding any nitrate past the stretch.
Do you always defoliate? really never did till this winter when some Goji crosses I made were really leafy. The headband I often run has a high bud to leaf ratio and its not needed so much. I have one more run of crosses to flower (elfinstone x goji) and then a sog of Bangi clones I'm really looking forward to. Hopefully I get my feeds dialed in on the outdoor plants by then.
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Finally got old mother Bangi out on the ridge and in some sun. She has so many bud sites I doubt any will be very large but she's liking the outdoors so far. I put two of her clones in the same spot and plan to let them just go straight up in tomato cages and hopefully make one big cola each. One in a 65 gallon shortie and one just dug a place and made a mound. All are getting the 1.1 formula from Jidoka's posting in the Lounge once a week now. He suggested scaling it up for more EC but I struggled through the winter to keep the mother healthy and now she is happy I am staying with whats working. If it keeps raining like it is I may have to double up on feedings.
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My mother plant is growing up I topdressed with cow compost and gypsum twice now and she dosen't seem to want any more feeding.
The one in the ground washed out in a storm and I built her back up with a load of horse compost I had was too hot to use last year she seems to love it. Doing better than the one in the 65 gal shortie.
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Bangi Haze is really a great strain...
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