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Auto SoG

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Sall

Hello All,
I'm start this thread to talk about idea growing auto strains by sea of green method, meaningfully one plant - one bud.

I want to give every girl about 6x6in (15x15cm) grow space, like most common support mesh, containers with soil max half gal (~2L) per plant.
Don't have any issue with genes, have a lot of that type autos - waist-high one bud eventually with infinitesimal branches.

My mainly considers in this crowd is that girls gonna be interrupt each other, bigger leaf = bigger problem, and this return problems and small crop.

Thanks for any suggestion is this can be done ? Feel free to answer.

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aridbud

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Try it and see. You'll have far less yield, possible nutrient lock out and other problems at 6x6....try it and keep notes.

Better to LST and minimum 1-2 gallon container.
 
S

Sall

:tiphat:

There is option with bigger pots, this gonna be easier to feed and more control, but ratio soil/plant staying the same.

Better "hold them bend" than trying keep straight ? Want to use bamboo sticks and mesh to train them evenly.
 

MJPassion

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6x6 is small...


Can you plant in a bed so that roots share space?
I think you'll realize decent yield improvements using a bed rather than 6x6 containers.
 
S

Sall

Rather hydro I try in coco, pain in the rear with feeding by hand but they also grow bigger.


6x6 is growing space for one lady, 5 x 5ft = 100 plants
 

WHIPEDMEAT

Modortalan
Supermod
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hahaha, top feed with hydrotons/rockwool....

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Veggia farmer

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SOG AF, anyone?

SOG AF, anyone?

Im setting up a SOG bed indoors, and Im curious how folks do it With AF`s?

The setting Im putting up is ten sections, one per week harvested and planted/sowed. Would probably try at least one section one time With some SDH and Kush from LBH. Both AF.


The biggest problem for me not going in to full SOG with AF is the problem getting a even cannopy. ANy ideas for that? It could completely illiminate the veg room and just have a small tent with a seed run every now and then... Easy ay? In Bed I could also Broadcast the seeds one week before harvesting the ripining plants, and when they are cut, well then there are small seeds sprouting too.. Yeah, sog no-till kinda...


All ideas welcome..:tiphat:

Farmer
 

Switcher56

Comfortably numb!
There's a thread on here that discusses Afs. I thought I had it bookmarked :( The gist is...


<<The life cycle of Auto Flowering Cannabis:

Another common question I see is when to switch autos from veg to bloom nutrients. Many people are under the impression that as soon as they see the first flowers it's time to switch nutrients. Perhaps a little explanation of the life cycle of autos will help to clarify this.

Weeks 1 - 3: Once you've started your seeds and they break the surface of the soil, they are in their seedling stage. The first set of leaves to appear will usually single fingered, followed by a second set that may still be single fingered or perhaps 3 fingered. Once that second set appears growth will start to accelerate as the new leaves provide more photosynthesis. This process will continue, more new leaves, faster growth. Depending on the type of soil in use, mild vegetative nutes can be introduced at week 2. By week 3 most plants will start to show their sex. Males will start to produce pollen sacks and females will display pistols.

Weeks 4 - 6: The plants are now entering a pre-flowering stage. During this time the plants should exhibit explosive growth, often as much as a new set of nodes and 1" vertical growth a day. This is the time when they will gain most of their vertical height. Many people make the mistake of switching from vegetative to flowering nutrients at this point, assuming that since they see flowers it must be the proper time. This is incorrect. If the switch to flowering nutes is made at this time the vertical growth will stop and the plant will put it's energy into producing buds. If you need to keep your plants small, or want them to finish earlier, they by all means switch nutes at this point. But if you want to get the most out of your plants continue feeding vegetative nutes until you see the vertical growth slow and stop. Depending on the strain that will usually be sometime during week 5 or 6.

Weeks 7 - 9: By now vertical growth has stopped and the switch to flowering nutrients has been made. The buds will start to fill out and put on weight, becoming hard and tight. Pistols will start to change from white to brown, orange, red, etc. By now the plants will also have developed a strong smell. Toward the end of this phase the large primary and smaller secondary fan leaves will begin to turn yellow. This is an indication that the plant is moving toward the end of it's life.

Weeks 10 - 11: At this time flowering nutes should be discontinued and only plain pHed water fed to flush the remaining nutrients from the soil and improve the taste. Yellowing of the fan leaves will continue as the plant draws the stored energy from them. Eventually they will die and fall off. By the time that the smaller leaves that come from out of the buds will also start to turn yellow. Then it's time to harvest.

I know that many of you are thinking that the seed bank said the plants will finish in 8-9 weeks, so why are you saying they take 10-11? The claims made by the seed banks are somewhat deceptive. If you switch to flowering nutes at week 3 or 4 the plants can finish in the times the seed banks say but they will remain small and not reach their full potential yield. Years of growing by myself and others has shown that autos do best if you follow this timeline.

Of course, there will always be variations depending on the strain, the environment, nutrients, etc. This information is meant to only serve as a general guideline. >>
 

aridbud

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Unless F1 where all plants are same height, it's a challenge.

Having several strains you are growing...should prove interesting. Good luck!
 

Veggia farmer

Well-known member
Switcher 56: To be honest I really like growing afs because of how the cycle is.. It is somewhat very Logic to me, or it fit my growing style a lot.. Beds With compost and organic ferts some Liquids maybe= big afs… In the seed run I had to bend a lot since they were over 1m, and that was too much in that setup. Under 2X250w hps.. Would Guess under the 400w and not bended plants up to 1,4 m would be in Reach easily..

and in sog I would have a least 25 femalers per 400w. would really like to try the numbers DHF have suggested in using clones 256 clones per 4fX4f.... Broadcast 500 seeds and see what happens hehe.. Overgrow it..

Aridbud: Yeah, have several strains.. just need to have seed runs.. does People really buy af seeds every time they grow?

Yes, and in the seed runs I rarely see uniform heights….hmm..
 

WHIPEDMEAT

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probably you missed to check some threads here, oaky is running kind of sog setup...
256 plants in 120 *120 cm ?.. bit too much
 

Switcher56

Comfortably numb!
Switcher 56: To be honest I really like growing afs because of how the cycle is.. It is somewhat very Logic to me, or it fit my growing style a lot.. Beds With compost and organic ferts some Liquids maybe= big afs… In the seed run I had to bend a lot since they were over 1m, and that was too much in that setup. Under 2X250w hps.. Would Guess under the 400w and not bended plants up to 1,4 m would be in Reach easily..

and in sog I would have a least 25 femalers per 400w. would really like to try the numbers DHF have suggested in using clones 256 clones per 4fX4f.... Broadcast 500 seeds and see what happens hehe.. Overgrow it..

Aridbud: Yeah, have several strains.. just need to have seed runs.. does People really buy af seeds every time they grow?

Yes, and in the seed runs I rarely see uniform heights….hmm..
Whatever floats your boat mate. I have no dog in this fight. I just posted info from someone who is deemed an expert wrt growing autos. :tiphat:

PS: If folks know the thread I am talking about, please post.
 

Veggia farmer

Well-known member
Ok, thanks for treahd, but maybe I wrote a bit wrong. I didnt think of AFs In general, good Reading but I know AF in general a little bit from before… Thanks anyway.


What I meant was how do People do AF in a SOG setup. If someone does it. Yes, i mean the old School sog With one main stalk per clone or plant or similar.


Whiped: You mean oakyjoe? The other sticky? hehe.
I atleast heard someone did a clone setup with that many clones and had very good yields. Not tried myself, yet.
 
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