Removing chloramine from 1000 gallons of water

Top_shelf_farms · Apr 11, 2016

Hello- I've got a new place that has city water and I'm trying to figure out the best way to remove chlorine and chloramine from the water 1000 gallons at a time. I need to have the water cleaned once a day. It doesn't sound like I can bubble it off so either a filter of some sort or additives?... Thank you all!

stoned-trout · Apr 11, 2016

organic matter will do it....ascorbic acid does too I believe...yeehaw

EastBayGrower · Apr 11, 2016

from what ive been told (and been using for 2 years) is get the highest purity humic acid you can made from a non-Leardonite source and add that at 1 ml per gallon, i tend to use more but was even told a few drops will do

Microbeman · Apr 11, 2016

humic acid, ascorbic acid, citric acid, molasses and compost all work

corky1968 · Apr 11, 2016

Chlorine evaporates fairly fast when exposed to sunlight.

Chloramine is harder to get rid of.

Check section 4 in the link below and pick a solution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine

EastBayGrower · Apr 12, 2016

Microbeman said:
humic acid, ascorbic acid, citric acid, molasses and compost all work

I was told it has to be made from a non-Leodanite source to be effective at tieing u chloramine, or will any humic acid product work? ... because its hard to find fresh water derived humic acid...

Top_shelf_farms · Apr 12, 2016

Excellent guys thanks for the responses!

Coba · Apr 13, 2016

what about a carbon filter? can't get anymore OM than activated carbon.

Mikell · Apr 13, 2016

Has anyone evidence that chloramine, in the concentration used to treat water, has any real impact on soil microbiology?

I poked around a bit, but beyond cannabis references and a few blogs, couldn't find much.

van de Leur-Muttzall and Hanstveit (1998b; Appendix H), reported weak persistence in soil and rapid degradation under aerobic conditions.

I understand the logic "if it kills microbes in water, it will in soil". But we're talking apples and oranges.

Kind of starting to look like another one of those things restricted to cannabis forums and wives tales gardening.

Superstituous feeling..

MM?

krunchbubble · Apr 13, 2016

Top_shelf_farms said:
Hello- I've got a new place that has city water and I'm trying to figure out the best way to remove chlorine and chloramine from the water 1000 gallons at a time. I need to have the water cleaned once a day. It doesn't sound like I can bubble it off so either a filter of some sort or additives?... Thank you all!

Buy a Hydrologic Tall boy, then upgrade to one of these filters, no more chloramin or chlorine...
http://www.amazon.com/Hydro-Logic-22070-20-Inch-4-5-Inch-Catalytic/dp/B00286SOFC

Been using for years and years...

30years · Apr 13, 2016

A drop of humid acid per gallon ties up the chloramine for about two weeks.

Microbeman · Apr 13, 2016

Mikell said:
Has anyone evidence that chloramine, in the concentration used to treat water, has any real impact on soil microbiology?

I poked around a bit, but beyond cannabis references and a few blogs, couldn't find much.

van de Leur-Muttzall and Hanstveit (1998b; Appendix H), reported weak persistence in soil and rapid degradation under aerobic conditions.

I understand the logic "if it kills microbes in water, it will in soil". But we're talking apples and oranges.

Kind of starting to look like another one of those things restricted to cannabis forums and wives tales gardening.

Superstituous feeling..

MM?

It really is not a big deal for irrigation. It is a minor issue if making CT or fermentations or good beer. It is neutralized with any of the substances previously mentioned. I should add that I would not want to irrigate with it day after day. It must have some accumulative effect. Personally I use a $200 filter and don't think about it.

Microbeman · Apr 13, 2016

EastBayGrower said:
I was told it has to be made from a non-Leodanite source to be effective at tieing u chloramine, or will any humic acid product work? ... because its hard to find fresh water derived humic acid...

It is the nature of an oxidizer like chlorine or chloramine that they are neutralized by organic matter, especially with a higher humic content. No special type of humic acid is necessary and orange peals or molasses works just as well.

betshtick · Apr 20, 2016

Interesting, on the humic acid... Any idear how long it takes, roughly, for it to tie up the chloramines?

I'm using drops so I can mix immediately... But, I'm also adding a powdered humic (ful-humix). Perhaps redundant if the humic does it's binding business quickly.

That said for the OP, 16oz of dechlorinator treats ~1000gals and will run you $10-15 at the hydro shop (aquarium drops are probably even cheaper). If you want something easy and surefire or just a temporary solution while you research.

BusinessFactory · Apr 20, 2016

I'd be interested to hear the thoughts around this. Basically he saw no decrease in soil life when using chlorinated water.

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Mikell · Apr 21, 2016

Interesting. Inconclusive to be sure, but definitely a nod towards this being another bogeyman created from fear/emotion rather than reason.

I'm still waiting to hear back on the studies frequently mentioned on ag extensions, re:the "126 day watering" test.

OXIRIS · Apr 22, 2016

Not sure if this is an option, but what about tap water conditioner for fish tanks? Works for me, plus it removes some heavy metals. Real question for, could the use of this product still be considered organic?

RoostaPhish · Apr 22, 2016

KDF85, regular carbon filters don't remove chloramine. Big boy or tall boy would do the trick fine just make sure you have the KDF

wildgrow · Jul 10, 2016

Mikell said:
Interesting. Inconclusive to be sure, but definitely a nod towards this being another bogeyman created from fear/emotion rather than reason.

I'm still waiting to hear back on the studies frequently mentioned on ag extensions, re:the "126 day watering" test.

Its day # what now? Any results?

Mikell · Jul 11, 2016

I was forwarded to another email address after they realized I wasn't looking for information already posted (they regurgitated once) but the trail stopped there.

Reminds me I never really sent a follow up or looked for other websites referencing the same elusive study.

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