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sheik_yerbouti · Apr 27, 2018

Can anyone Identify this bug?

I've had problems dealing with root aphids so I was inspecting the roots while transplanting and I saw this mini centipede looking thing in the root ball. No idea what it is, pretty sure it's not a root aphid. I few days ago I also saw a green bug looking thing in the roots as well. I was assuming it was a part of the root aphid life cycle but now I'm thinking I have another bug of some sort. Anyone have any idea?

Bird of Hermes · Apr 27, 2018

Wow looks just like a centipide never seen anything like that before. Is it moving? It looks like exactly the same color/diameter as the roots so if it's not moving it could be a piece of root that broke off and looks strangely like a centipide. Not trying to be funny or nothing and I agree it does look like a mini centepede.

DARKSIDER · Apr 27, 2018

sheik_yerbouti said:
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Can anyone Identify this bug?

I've had problems dealing with root aphids so I was inspecting the roots while transplanting and I saw this mini centipede looking thing in the root ball. No idea what it is, pretty sure it's not a root aphid. I few days ago I also saw a green bug looking thing in the roots as well. I was assuming it was a part of the root aphid life cycle but now I'm thinking I have another bug of some sort. Anyone have any idea?

looks like a baby centipede similar to this one in picture but cannot see the feelers on its napper in your picture

After inspecting your photo more closely I can see the feelers or at least I think I can, I was looking at it top to bottom but after looking again its bottom to top before I saw them, baby centipede imho. maybes one of the more experienced will chime in all the best either way.

Bird of Hermes · Apr 27, 2018

DARKSIDER said:
looks like a baby centipede similar to this one in picture but cannot see the feelers on its napper in your picture

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After inspecting your photo more closely I can see the feelers or at least I think I can, I was looking at it top to bottom but after looking again its bottom to top before I saw them, baby centipede imho. maybes one of the more experienced will chime in all the best either way.

Yeah I see it now both pics look the same and your right I see the feelers in his pic at the 6 o'clock position. I've never encountered centipedes in any soil that I used or if I had them I never noticed. Pretty sure all centipide species are carnivores so can't see it hurting anything and maybe is even beneficial for hunting down soil born pests.

AgentPothead · Apr 27, 2018

Okay so if it is a centipede, those eat other bugs, it might be good to keep around. But if it's the other thing a millipede, those are herbivorous and will eat the plant roots. It appears to only have 1 set of legs per segment, which means it is a centipede. I might just be stoned though

But I think it is a centipede.

sheik_yerbouti · Apr 27, 2018

Bird of Hermes said:
Wow looks just like a centipide never seen anything like that before. Is it moving? It looks like exactly the same color/diameter as the roots so if it's not moving it could be a piece of root that broke off and looks strangely like a centipide. Not trying to be funny or nothing and I agree it does look like a mini centepede.

Definitely moving. I had seen one before but it quickly tucked itself back away into the root zone. This guy was cruising along the surface and I just had enough time to pull out my phone and snap a pic before he disappeared.

Also definitely had feelers like a centipede or a millipede. The legs look a lot more centipede like so if it is just that then like someone said it could actually be beneficial.

This is weird, I thought for sure someone was going to point it out as some catastrophic bug but it could in the end be feeding on the root aphids and helping out.

Bird of Hermes · Apr 28, 2018

sheik_yerbouti said:
Definitely moving. I had seen one before but it quickly tucked itself back away into the root zone. This guy was cruising along the surface and I just had enough time to pull out my phone and snap a pic before he disappeared.

Also definitely had feelers like a centipede or a millipede. The legs look a lot more centipede like so if it is just that then like someone said it could actually be beneficial.

This is weird, I thought for sure someone was going to point it out as some catastrophic bug but it could in the end be feeding on the root aphids and helping out.

Nah you're golden it's definitely a centipede keeping guard in the root zone. It's completely identical to the pics darksider and agent pothead posted of centipedes and looks nothing like a millipede. I'm not even sure millipedes would be a major issue seems they only eat decaying dead plant matter from the sound of things. Even if they did eat live roots which I doubt it's clearly a centipede. You took a pretty good pic so it's easy to see its legs and it has the long antennae typical of centipedes. You can rest easy about this one man

buzzmobile · Apr 28, 2018

Not a centipede, but a relative. Symphylan

They are not friendly to Cannabis plants.

http://www.growingproduce.com/vegetables/9-things-you-need-to-know-about-garden-symphylan/

Bird of Hermes · Apr 28, 2018

buzzmobile said:
Not a centipede, but a relative. Symphylan

They are not friendly to Cannabis plants.

https://www.growingproduce.com/vegetables/9-things-you-need-to-know-about-garden-symphylan/

Holy crap I've never heard of those before but seeing the pic in that link looks like you're spot on buzz. You're depth of knowledge never ceases to amaze me brother. Wonder what you have to use to get rid of them. I hope they don't live in perlite and hydroton. :shucks:

From reading that second link doesn't look like they would. Damn sorry sheik doesn't look like you're in the clear after all not sure how you get rid of these buggers but I'd suggest ditching your current mediums for sure.

DARKSIDER · Apr 28, 2018

buzzmobile said:
Not a centipede, but a relative. Symphylan

They are not friendly to Cannabis plants.

https://www.growingproduce.com/vegetables/9-things-you-need-to-know-about-garden-symphylan/

there you go
sheik_yerbouti. words from the wise.
well done buzz. :tiphat:

I would never of guessed that was a garden centipede, :biggrin:

AgentPothead · Apr 28, 2018

Well fuck that was an emotional rollercoaster. buzzmobile looks to be correct on this one for sure, that picture matches 100%. Wiki says A species of Symphylella has been shown to be predominantly predatory, hopefully you got that one and not the other 199 species that eat root hairs

buzzmobile · Apr 28, 2018

A soil drench is about the only way to control them in containers. Evergreen Pyrethrum Concentrate Garden symphylans are listed on the label but soil drench directions are not. Search evergreen pyrethrum soil drench and decide which amount suits your need.

Bird of Hermes · Apr 29, 2018

buzzmobile said:
A soil drench is about the only way to control them in containers. Evergreen Pyrethrum Concentrate Garden symphylans are listed on the label but soil drench directions are not. Search evergreen pyrethrum soil drench and decide which amount suits your need.

I read about that too last night but fell asleep before I could post about it. Also saw that tilling the soil after the plants are gone will cut down on the population. Maybe use the soil drench for now and after their done till the hell out of any soil you want to reuse and then drench it again with pyrethrum. Good luck sheik

wvkindbud38 · May 20, 2018

I'm not well versed in bugs....a bug is a bug to me I don't want them on my plants. Unless it's ladybugs there just bugs. But maybe my old ways need to learn to help buy the rt stuff to spray on them.

So anybody know what exactly this is??? Help would be greatly appriciated

AgentPothead · May 20, 2018

That appears to be a leafhopper of some sort I think? Have you noticed any damage on the plant? They suck the sap for moisture. I think you can combat with spinosad or neem oil, but I also think both of those are frowned upon. Hopefully somebody with more experience can help ya out wvkindbud.

wvkindbud38 · May 20, 2018

Yea it's just a seedling I put out from bagseeds to test insecticides on before I put my other plants out. I left it out one night and it rained and it's got overwatered badly. This pic is a week ago before I sprayed some Organicide on it.

wvkindbud38 · May 20, 2018

I got several things at Walmart to use for bugs and things....
Used this a week ago it got rid of that leafhopper or whatever it is. I'm curious if it will work on a bigger plant....first time using

AgentPothead · May 21, 2018

I'd be careful using that on a plant that is farther along, especially anything in veg. The main ingredient appears to be sesame oils and fish oils. Great for things you can rinse off before you consume, like fruits and vegetables, not so great for things you will be combusting and inhaling. Their official webpage only mentions marijuana use as a soil drench. It should be okay since that plant is just starting off, but I wouldn't use it during veg.

wvkindbud38 · May 21, 2018

AgentPothead said:
I'd be careful using that on a plant that is farther along, especially anything in veg. The main ingredient appears to be sesame oils and fish oils. Great for things you can rinse off before you consume, like fruits and vegetables, not so great for things you will be combusting and inhaling. Their official webpage only mentions marijuana use as a soil drench. It should be okay since that plant is just starting off, but I wouldn't use it during veg.

Thanks a lot I didn't figure this stuff from Walmart would be any good. I do have some neem oil from there too I might try. I'll probably cull that seedlings later on.....it's good to test with.....thanks a lot for the info. I got azamax I plan to use on my good strains....any other suggestions??

ahhhavalanche! · May 22, 2018

Seed destroying Symphylans (garden centipedes/ pseudocentipedes)

Seed destroying Symphylans (garden centipedes/ pseudocentipedes)

buzzmobile said:
Not a centipede, but a relative. Symphylan

They are not friendly to Cannabis plants.

https://www.growingproduce.com/vegetables/9-things-you-need-to-know-about-garden-symphylan/

Thanks buzzmobile! that is exactly what they are.

I have been having a hard time germinating and keeping seedlings alive lately. Dug up some seeds that were germinated straight into coco and found these jimbronies crawling all over the them.

I have a microscope video of them crawling all over, but I dont know how to safely post that.

I cracked one of the seeds open, and there were tiny clear worm like things crawling around inside, which my best guess are nematodes.

Current plan is to toss this batch of coco, and start some fresh seeds next week.

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