MJtheIndicator
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I'm don't know this from experience…
I'm don't know this from experience…
...Only endo mycorrhizae associate with cannabis and Glomus intraradices is the most versatile and aggressive endo strain and is the strain with the highest propagules. You will notice that there are other strains with lower counts. These will still associate and have specific strengths either for certain conditions like soil pH and other environmental conditions or specific plant parameter advantages. Our VAM endo is not fortified with pure cultures of bacteria, although there are beneficial bacteria present in the product. Because they are not cultured individually and then blended in the final product they can't really be guaranteed for specific CFU's and therefore are not listed on the label. That being said, even though G. intraradices is the most aggressive and versatile As far as Trichodermas go, if you search the scientific database you can find examples of mycorrhizae having synergistic effects with them"
This sounds like a manufacturer in conversation with Rize. Note the usage "most versatile and aggressive", this insinuates there are less versatile and less aggressive glomus. Validation comes with the phrase, "other strains with lower counts", this would admit others beyond Glomus intraradices and mosseae do in fact associate with cannabis e.g. pH, environment etc.
I agree that Glomus intraradices and mosseae are the most often tested in relation to metals, cadmiums or pathogens and such efforts therefor present them as the only "worthwhile" fungi. If this is an issue of colonization and symbiosis, it still does not discount the presence of other glomus and/or the pathogens they encounter. We desire obligate symbionts to function fully, but if we get caught up in life cycle or debating an annual vs. perrenial and the true value of symbiosis we are just ignoring a spectrum of fungi and attempting to sell Glomus intraradices and mosseae as the cannabis penicillin.
However, if there is definitive citation showing cannabis does not want to have anything to do with any other AM fungus then I would be delighted to know. If such an article regards symbiosis then I hope I have mentioned such a relationship isn't the knowledge I am pointing to.
When we forage through a forest populated with a one dominant species of tree we do not expect to only find one type of mushroom, but we do find differentiation and varying degrees of symbiosis.
If we are worried trichoderma will bully the mycorrhizae, one solution might be to introduce mycorrhizae first let it establish itself, then present the trichoderma to allow it to either annihilate or morphologically find a way to fit in; survive.
I'm don't know this from experience…
In reading through what Matt Rize put together in a blog concerning inoculants, he states: "Here is what I've gathered from the pros on these inoculant products...
...Only endo mycorrhizae associate with cannabis and Glomus intraradices is the most versatile and aggressive endo strain and is the strain with the highest propagules. You will notice that there are other strains with lower counts. These will still associate and have specific strengths either for certain conditions like soil pH and other environmental conditions or specific plant parameter advantages. Our VAM endo is not fortified with pure cultures of bacteria, although there are beneficial bacteria present in the product. Because they are not cultured individually and then blended in the final product they can't really be guaranteed for specific CFU's and therefore are not listed on the label. That being said, even though G. intraradices is the most aggressive and versatile As far as Trichodermas go, if you search the scientific database you can find examples of mycorrhizae having synergistic effects with them"
This sounds like a manufacturer in conversation with Rize. Note the usage "most versatile and aggressive", this insinuates there are less versatile and less aggressive glomus. Validation comes with the phrase, "other strains with lower counts", this would admit others beyond Glomus intraradices and mosseae do in fact associate with cannabis e.g. pH, environment etc.
I agree that Glomus intraradices and mosseae are the most often tested in relation to metals, cadmiums or pathogens and such efforts therefor present them as the only "worthwhile" fungi. If this is an issue of colonization and symbiosis, it still does not discount the presence of other glomus and/or the pathogens they encounter. We desire obligate symbionts to function fully, but if we get caught up in life cycle or debating an annual vs. perrenial and the true value of symbiosis we are just ignoring a spectrum of fungi and attempting to sell Glomus intraradices and mosseae as the cannabis penicillin.
However, if there is definitive citation showing cannabis does not want to have anything to do with any other AM fungus then I would be delighted to know. If such an article regards symbiosis then I hope I have mentioned such a relationship isn't the knowledge I am pointing to.
When we forage through a forest populated with a one dominant species of tree we do not expect to only find one type of mushroom, but we do find differentiation and varying degrees of symbiosis.
If we are worried trichoderma will bully the mycorrhizae, one solution might be to introduce mycorrhizae first let it establish itself, then present the trichoderma to allow it to either annihilate or morphologically find a way to fit in; survive.
