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Zack pls stop
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20sackzack
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Bunch of shit to update
I received the results from the soil and water tests I sent out. The soil I tested was a coots mix I made a year ago for an outdoor grow. Soil base ratios are OK, high in most things with some micronutrient deficiencies. Could use more ca less mg. Water is very low ppm like 45 but is at 7.5 ph. That combined with my soils high ph explains some of the problems I was seeing
I still plan on improving this soil mix to be used in the future, but for now I needed a faster easier option to get my girls transplanted and flipped asap
I had only been using ro water before I installed the blumats. After the install, switched to tap water not knowing it had a high ph at the time. That combined with getting a little root bound and over watered had my girls looking pretty sad... I needed to get their roots more room and food
Decided to pick up 4 20 gal bags of roots 707
Used a pallet and some 2x4's to keep the grow bag up off the ground. It's just a 4'x4'x10" smart pot basically. Hindsight 2020 I would have bought an actual geoplanter with a pvc frame. It was all good until I put the last bag of soil in. Then the sides started to flop and spill. I had to use some bamboo and wire to hold it all in. But hey it worked
I received the results from the soil and water tests I sent out. The soil I tested was a coots mix I made a year ago for an outdoor grow. Soil base ratios are OK, high in most things with some micronutrient deficiencies. Could use more ca less mg. Water is very low ppm like 45 but is at 7.5 ph. That combined with my soils high ph explains some of the problems I was seeing
I still plan on improving this soil mix to be used in the future, but for now I needed a faster easier option to get my girls transplanted and flipped asap
I had only been using ro water before I installed the blumats. After the install, switched to tap water not knowing it had a high ph at the time. That combined with getting a little root bound and over watered had my girls looking pretty sad... I needed to get their roots more room and food
Decided to pick up 4 20 gal bags of roots 707
Used a pallet and some 2x4's to keep the grow bag up off the ground. It's just a 4'x4'x10" smart pot basically. Hindsight 2020 I would have bought an actual geoplanter with a pvc frame. It was all good until I put the last bag of soil in. Then the sides started to flop and spill. I had to use some bamboo and wire to hold it all in. But hey it worked
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20sackzack
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Had to move the tent across the room to get it next to the window. I filled the bed and got the plants in it. Looking back I would have installed the ac before I did the transplant. Would have had way more room to work that way... whatever got it done mostly anyway.
Here's a shot of the empty bag and pallet underneath
Filling up
Here's a shot that shows roots growing way more on the blumat side of the pot. Not sure I like not having a wet and dry cycle. I'm gonna give the blumats another shot in the bed but I haven't had time to install them yet. So for now it's hand water action
Here they all are in their new home
20sackzack
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I didn't get any pics of the installation process for the ac. All I can say is it was a bitch because I only had about 10" to fit myself between the wall and the tent. Like I said if I had done this before transplanting it would have been sooo much easier
I used foam board to make a little box that extended the front of the ac to the tent. Cut flaps for the holes so I can easily put them back and used foil tape to seal everything. Then I routed the ducting for my air cooled hood to intake and exhaust next to the ac outside in a closed loop. I had to jimmy rig a filter for the intake to make it work for now. Planning on improving the set up and making it look more normal from outside
So now I have some light leeks I need to fix before I flip. Mainly from the vent that blows cold air on the ac. Gonna try the black spray paint trick
I got a couple more toys on the way. I finally ordered a dual channel outlet thermostat. It will turn on a heater when it gets too cold, and turn on the hood fan when it gets too hot. Shoulda had this from the get go. Should help a lot with stabilizing my environment
I think that's pretty much it for now. Hoping my girls will start looking better and taking off soon
Bonus squish pics from a nice little session I had. Last year's outdoor citrus sap (gg4×tangie)
I used foam board to make a little box that extended the front of the ac to the tent. Cut flaps for the holes so I can easily put them back and used foil tape to seal everything. Then I routed the ducting for my air cooled hood to intake and exhaust next to the ac outside in a closed loop. I had to jimmy rig a filter for the intake to make it work for now. Planning on improving the set up and making it look more normal from outside
So now I have some light leeks I need to fix before I flip. Mainly from the vent that blows cold air on the ac. Gonna try the black spray paint trick
I got a couple more toys on the way. I finally ordered a dual channel outlet thermostat. It will turn on a heater when it gets too cold, and turn on the hood fan when it gets too hot. Shoulda had this from the get go. Should help a lot with stabilizing my environment
I think that's pretty much it for now. Hoping my girls will start looking better and taking off soon
Bonus squish pics from a nice little session I had. Last year's outdoor citrus sap (gg4×tangie)
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Got the outlet temp controller and heater set up. Now my temps will never go outside the range I have set. Wish I had got this sooner, would have definitely helped. For any new growers out there get one of these hook it up to your fan and you will not regret it
The ac is for warmer weather, but as of right now my fan isn't even running most the time anymore. The light is keeping temps at 76 almost all on its own. The heater will keep my lights off temps in check
The ac is for warmer weather, but as of right now my fan isn't even running most the time anymore. The light is keeping temps at 76 almost all on its own. The heater will keep my lights off temps in check
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Should be getting a dehumidifier tomorrow and I ordered some special spray paint for styrofoam. Hopefully that will solve the big ass light leak from my window ac
looking great zack! 
gotta love a bed of soil full of happy plants
gotta love a bed of soil full of happy plants
20sackzack
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Happy 4/20 yall 
Got my dehui in last night, environment almost fully controlled now
Got my dehui in last night, environment almost fully controlled now
that's some tricked out tent!
20sackzack
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Haha dude that totally reminded me of pimp my ride for some reason
If u still got that prime account going here ya go
It didn't melt the foam and did block the light. But honestly for me it did not work. There was just no way of getting the paint to cover every surface of the foam. Deep inside and over all the seems and corners. Just wasn't happening. I ended up taking the ac apart and covering the entire back of the foam in foil tape. 100% light proof now. Maybe in your situation the paint will work though?
I sealed up those stupid round holes I cut and rerouted my ducting. Pulling air from the room the tent is in, through the hood and out the window
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Thanks bro. There are some challenges to using beds, but I think the benefits out weigh them. Really surprising more people don't use big beds. I mean, look at the pros who kill it yield and quality wise year after year outdoors in norcal. What do they all use? Lots and lots of soil... why wouldn't u want to do the same indoors?
Of course there are peeps like hash zeppelin who produce amazing quality in smaller containers outdoors. But for the most part it's big ass pots or mounds that grow trees. I've read that most plants will mirror their root systems so why not give them as much space as possible. Instead of my 12 plants each being in a 5 gallon pot it's like they all have their own 80 gal to spread out in
Been puttin in work over the weekend. Got my first cloning experience, took 18 cuts that I'm hoping will turn out ok. Also cleaned out the undersides and put down the first layer of trellis
This is right after I put in the trellis last night
Then this morning before work
Of course there are peeps like hash zeppelin who produce amazing quality in smaller containers outdoors. But for the most part it's big ass pots or mounds that grow trees. I've read that most plants will mirror their root systems so why not give them as much space as possible. Instead of my 12 plants each being in a 5 gallon pot it's like they all have their own 80 gal to spread out in
Been puttin in work over the weekend. Got my first cloning experience, took 18 cuts that I'm hoping will turn out ok. Also cleaned out the undersides and put down the first layer of trellis
This is right after I put in the trellis last night
Then this morning before work
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NewAgeGenetics
great setup!
you still water with the blumats in the soilbed?
you still water with the blumats in the soilbed?
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Nah I haven't set up the blumats in the bed yet. I'm a little hesitant because the last time I used them things went a little wonky. I know it was probably because of the high ph soil and water I was using combined with too small of containers. I'm sure they would work better in the bed using ro but I kinda like having a wet and dry cycle
I am currently using my submersible pump, hose and watering wand in a 5 gallon bucket to water. It's perfect because I can adjust the flow down on the wand and use it to reach all the way back underneath the canopy without getting the plants wet
Here's a couple more pics I forgot to put up earlier of the new ventilation setup
I am currently using my submersible pump, hose and watering wand in a 5 gallon bucket to water. It's perfect because I can adjust the flow down on the wand and use it to reach all the way back underneath the canopy without getting the plants wet
Here's a couple more pics I forgot to put up earlier of the new ventilation setup
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NewAgeGenetics
I think you will be surprised that how big can grow the plants when the roots have unlimited space.
20sackzack
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Tent is flipped. Had to switch to the hps bulb because the metal halide quit working last night
Looking good Zack
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No current thread, heres a link to my last grow, it was kinda slow, but check it out. It's something you don't see much of anymore. I tend to buck traditional grow style, I pretty much follow the lead of DHF and Heath Robinson, Marlo, Ichabod Crane, etc.
Welcome to the WEED shed 4k stadium
.this is my journal finished this crop in January, got 7 pounds , didn't hit my goal, but came close. I am trimming the current crop now.
Welcome to the WEED shed 4k stadium
.this is my journal finished this crop in January, got 7 pounds , didn't hit my goal, but came close. I am trimming the current crop now.
