Did you watch Trump last night, if not you should life could be in danger' .....

Kankakee said:

Indeed .....

the big bang alchemist ( alchemist like bodhi, the occultist ) profess an every expanding universe, but the stars have sat in the same place recorded by the greeks and used by ship masters for centuries upon centuries ...

and the atmospheric percentages just perfect, gravity just perfect, every other planet with nothing, earth just parked itself perfectly from sun, just dumb luck ..... and every animal shits > eats > sleeps > repeat ..... but every human unique w/ creativity for all things yet animals not so much ...

drop the crack pipe .....

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The stars move. Its called procession of the Eqiunoxes .
everything is always moving.
Humans are animals and most animals are creative in getting what they need.
Man created god to make himself feel less anxious about not being able to know why or how he exists

Um'

Sorry the stars do not move. The same celestial dogs, cats etc drawn by Greeks have not changed one bit, same stars used for charting for sea voyage still the same today ( China ), all humans unique, created netfix, atomic energy, gas motors, cern ..... if big bang, pleiades, etc was ever expanding the big dipper would be a washing machine today' or a hamburger

all animals look the same, do the same actions day after day never evolving .... eat, sleep, shit repeat .... no evolution nothing not inventing a damn thing ....

humans unique visually and mentally ....

Try again

Cannavore said:

that's what happens when you inherit an economy in recession. go look back at 2007, 2009, and 2009 when the economy was in the red and we were losing millions and millions of jobs. i don't like obama but even i can see he was handicapped by Bushes economy before he even took office.


aging population plus the failing of capitalism will give you increased welfare. when people have nothing and no opportunities other than low paying jobs what do you expect. our diets are shit, we don't have preventative health care, 50% of workers make 30k or less, something like 6 out of 10 Americans can't afford a $1000 medical procedure.

he inherited Bushes deficit and cut it by over double. it did not increase.



that's what you get when you concede to a right wing health care plan and not pushing for the actual liberal position. it didn't get any better, it just slowed the premium growth because the marketplace itself is toxic and an oligopoly. the only viable solution i can see is medicare for all.


im not going to respond to each point from your giant list but backing out of the Paris Climate Accord and messing with the Iran Nuclear Deal just for two quick examples are NOT positives.

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people ALOT smarter than you thought differently.

Kankakee said:

Um'

Sorry the stars do not move. The same celestial dogs, cats etc drawn by Greeks have not changed one bit, same stars used for charting for sea voyage still the same today ( China ), all humans unique, created netfix, atomic energy, gas motors, cern ..... if big bang, pleiades, etc was ever expanding the big dipper would be a washing machine today' or a hamburger

all animals look the same, do the same actions day after day never evolving .... eat, sleep, shit repeat .... no evolution nothing not inventing a damn thing ....

humans unique visually and mentally ....

Try again

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Well when you consider the Earth is about 4.5 billion years old and humans have only been around for 7.2 million years, at least the oldest I found. The Greeks where really not that long ago.

Of course I do think abortion is a little fucked up, I certainly wouldn't be a part of it. I'm definitely for rape victims getting abortions, if they choose to though. Really, rapists should be hung IMO.

Now there may be some form of God, certainly not stemming from Judaism though that's clearly Hebrew mythology. I'm more likely to believe the Egyptian sun God as the sun is our father and the Earth is our mother, but I also believe we did in fact evolve from fungi as all animals without some grand purpose.

Humans are not the only intelligent life, we are more of a parasite IMO that may very well infect other planets in the universe. All planets are alive after all as are all the stars down to the black holes.

Which really makes life even more precious, because there is no after life, this is life. Of course you can worship any religion you like, I'm just not buying it until I see the afterlife. We are no more alive than a worm, I highly doubt they see a heaven.

Kankakee said:

Um'

Sorry the stars do not move. The same celestial dogs, cats etc drawn by Greeks have not changed one bit, same stars used for charting for sea voyage still the same today ( China ), all humans unique, created netfix, atomic energy, gas motors, cern ..... if big bang, pleiades, etc was ever expanding the big dipper would be a washing machine today' or a hamburger

all animals look the same, do the same actions day after day never evolving .... eat, sleep, shit repeat .... no evolution nothing not inventing a damn thing ....

humans unique visually and mentally ....

Try again

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU
Not only do the stars move, entire galaxies move. Have you heard the latest? Andromeda is on a collision course with the Milky Way.
Sure, it is five billion years from now but distances are great, space is large.

Yeah yeah, I know, too much information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucLYUYDhgos
This one better shows the angle the planetary orbits take in their travels with the sun through the galaxy. Those unchanging constellations are stars on the move just like ours. Life is short.

Alternate facts. It's the new reality.

Sorry Phaeton ....

The big-bank / bang alchemist like those who taught you your education, the universities funded by standard oil long ago told you the age of all things .... the securitization alchemy- selling derivatives, big pharma all born from the same dirty oil money from day one. Sorry if no respect shown towards these overlords of the universities of today.

I do not believe that calendar of events / timeframe .... billions of years, mine is the Biblical calendar. Every single prophecy has come forth true from this book as archaeology has continued to support' across Israel and middle east / dead sea scrolls etc etc etc

Again, the stars have not moved from time of China's recorded history ( 4,000 ) or the greeks ...

Not addressing other assertions or missing link b.s. speaks volumes all in itself ... because it leaves one empty foundation made of sand, I understand

Go on, I'm listening'

Technically everything in the universe is falling, so stars are not standing still.

Oh and abortion is the same as bombing schools and hospitals.

Uphold one but not the other?

Everybody pick one or the other.

They are the same thing.

I think it's indicative of the "division" portrayed by a two party illusion.

Problem-Reaction=Solution - / Hegelian Dialectic

The Problem Reaction Solution Paradigm

The government creates or exploits a problem blaming it on others (false flag).
The people react by asking the government for help willing to give up their rights.
The government offers the solution that was planned long before the crisis.

Hitler’s Nazi Reichmarshall and Luftwaffe Chief Hermann Goering is quoted as saying,“Naturally, the common people don’t want war … But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship… Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

Adolf Hitler burned his own Reichstag building in 1933 to blame on his political enemies. He would later declare that, “Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.”

When the global economy implodes very soon ....

The people without food, drugs, pills, meth, will react in a very bad way against fellow man, then the solution be be pulled from under abyss'

WWI, WWII will look like a school yard fight when this has run it's course'

one cannot condense the enormity of the universe into something as concrete as the pages of a book.
the distances involved create the illusion of stillness, coupled with our hubris that keeps us clinging to our own device.
procession of the equinox is our planet wobbling (still) from the impact that formed the moon and makes the stars appear to move...
the stars (and everything else) move like the youtube Phaeton posted, in spirals, fractally, from the largest galaxy to the orbit of electrons around protons.
currently the solar system is proceeding warp speed through an ionized dust cloud and is set to exit.
while we will never witness it, i contend that the ionized cloud(s) power the sun and that our solar system (planets revolving in the suns wake) is the propeller powered by electromagnetic re-connection from the conversion of energy of ion impact into dynamic motion.
while within the cloud our sun is at maximum power, but when we exit the cloud, the sun becomes less intense and 'relaxes' and rests at minimum.
the big bang theory never worked for me, it relies on there being something big before the bang. implausible but not impossible.
cymatics indicate frequencies create matter...or at least order out of chaos, so the word (sound) may be the source of existence. sound is vibration, frequency is the rate of vibration. electricity is the only candidate to explain where the frequencies originate.
i require a short nap now...

Abstract

Earth’s magnetotail contains magnetic energy derived from the kinetic energy of the solar wind. Conversion of that energy back to particle energy ultimately powers Earth’s auroras, heats the magnetospheric plasma, and energizes the Van Allen radiation belts. Where and how such electromagnetic energy conversion occurs has been unclear. Using a conjunction between eight spacecraft, we show that this conversion takes place within fronts of recently reconnected magnetic flux, predominantly at 1- to 10-electron inertial length scale, intense electrical current sheets (tens to hundreds of nanoamperes per square meter). Launched continually during intervals of geomagnetic activity, these reconnection outflow flux fronts convert ~10 to 100 gigawatts per square Earth radius of power, consistent with local magnetic flux transport, and a few times 1015 joules of magnetic energy, consistent with global magnetotail flux reduction.
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/341/6153/1478

Kankakee said:

Problem-Reaction=Solution - / Hegelian Dialectic

The Problem Reaction Solution Paradigm

The government creates or exploits a problem blaming it on others (false flag).
The people react by asking the government for help willing to give up their rights.
The government offers the solution that was planned long before the crisis.

Hitler’s Nazi Reichmarshall and Luftwaffe Chief Hermann Goering is quoted as saying,“Naturally, the common people don’t want war … But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship… Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

Adolf Hitler burned his own Reichstag building in 1933 to blame on his political enemies. He would later declare that, “Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death.”

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the thing was, the Nazis said these things openly
currently in the USA such things aren't being said openly
privately? well, these days not much stays secret forever
we're not living in far right totalitarian state
trump makes some lame comments, but they don't amount to much
war is possible, then again so is peace

Wendull C. said:

You are fucking delusional. You will be the first person I blocked, ever.

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delusional about what specifically?

jimdc said:

people ALOT smarter than you thought differently.

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I'm not smart at all so that isnt hard to do. What specifically are you referring to though with your post here?

Wendull C. said:

I am a prick man. First to admit that.

But how can you say such a thing? About the most innocent of human life.

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well God himself performed abortions in the bible, so according to christianity's own logic it isn't bad.

secondly abortion keeps population and unwanted pregnancy down and so does contraception. two things which red states seem to not understand hence why they have some of the highest rates of teen STD, teen preganancy, and repeat teen pregnancy in the entire country maybe even the western world.

but most importantly, someone getting an abortion has zero affect on my life. fetuses are neither human, babies, nor people. they have no rights. even if abortion becomes illegal by current law, it won't stop people from having abortions. it's no different than the drug or gun argument. the law won't suddenly stop people from using drugs, guns, getting abortions, ect.

Numbers 5:11-31 New International Version (NIV)

The Test for an Unfaithful Wife

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

“‘Then the woman is to say, “Amen. So be it.”

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offering and burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water. 27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse. 28 If, however, the woman has not made herself impure, but is clean, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children.

29 “‘This, then, is the law of jealousy when a woman goes astray and makes herself impure while married to her husband, 30 or when feelings of jealousy come over a man because he suspects his wife. The priest is to have her stand before the Lord and is to apply this entire law to her. 31 The husband will be innocent of any wrongdoing, but the woman will bear the consequences of her sin.’”

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This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me. Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

- 2 Timothy Chapter 3

Cannavore-

I see you do not understand the difference between Jesus / New Testament and Old Testament - AND the New International Version is a joke' .... Thinking Jesus number one commandment is Love and the golden rule, do unto others as you want done unto you reflects the fact Jesus never would believe or condone this.....

The NIV is the only translations to use the word "miscarriage" and they insert it in the place of words that translate as "waste away". Only a couple of translations even translate בֶּ֖טֶן (be·ṭen) and בִּטְנֵ֖ךְ (biṭ·nêḵ) as womb. The rest use belly or abdomen. It's about Jealousy and the Lord acting as a witness in trials that otherwise had none. Please read before this and after this but you do not have Biblical wisdom, so I understand this was clearly over your head and I understand you have never physical picked up a Bible in your life....

this is the trash found on Atheist forums .....

but a occultist like yourself will not admit this is the trash bin's you search from ....

here's the King James version;


27 And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people.

28 And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed.




thigh rot = pussy rot lol

belly swell = abdomen swell = sign of miscarriage

drinking bitter water = an Abortifacient
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortifacient

annnnd ..... how does this imply abortion ? and show me the word abort or abortifacient in that passage ? and your other misrepresentations, now your a Bible scholar on Biblical allegory and meaning ? Or an occultist on an atheist blog or forum'

It's about Jealousy and the Lord acting as a witness in trials that otherwise had none. Please read the pages before and after before removing context.